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Posted by Chris Crossland on Jul-22-2007 10:22:

HappyHappy Just got Reason

Friend of mine gave me it cause he never uses it SCORE! But uh wowzers. I dont even know where to start. Quite different from FL Studio!


Posted by camsr on Jul-22-2007 10:26:

try out the vocoder, the one good thing it has


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-22-2007 10:31:

quote:
Originally posted by camsr
try out the vocoder, the one good thing it has

Uh... yeah...


Posted by Chris Crossland on Jul-22-2007 10:33:

quote:
Originally posted by camsr
try out the vocoder, the one good thing it has


lol wheres it at!


Posted by Kid_presentable on Jul-22-2007 11:15:

in the black space right click then create vocoder.


Posted by Vizay on Jul-22-2007 13:49:

quote:
Originally posted by camsr
try out the vocoder, the one good thing it has


Can't be easy to live with such a narrow mind...


Posted by camsr on Jul-22-2007 21:30:

oops did i say vocoder? lol i meant the reverb... btw i cant stand reason as it's very non-ergonomic (bad workflow)


Posted by 3F05Q on Jul-22-2007 22:25:

I'd suggest starting out by loading up the demo songs and just watching. Then mute some instruments, see what's doing what, turn knobs while it's playing. You can create some pretty rad moving synths by using the matrix with the maelstrom for instance. It's something to play around with at first. You might find it better to create individual instruments rather than to try and jump in and make a full song. There's a LOT to do, much more than just the vocoder.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Jul-23-2007 01:58:

How do you add your own vsts and audio files? I notice like with the dr rex thingy you have to load rx2 files or what not.


Posted by camsr on Jul-23-2007 02:09:

no vst support inside reason.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Jul-23-2007 02:11:

quote:
Originally posted by camsr
no vst support inside reason.


No shit. Do you have to like rewire or whatever its called so i can use it through fl studio?


Posted by 3F05Q on Jul-23-2007 02:57:

You can load your own samples through the NN-19 and NNXT samplers. The NN-XT is actually fairly impressive once you learn how to use it. Yes, to use Loops you need to create the proper file for Dr. Rex. I really do suggest rewiring Reason, as it can open up a ton of possibilities. In a way, Reason is an open ended VST/plugin.


Posted by Chris Crossland on Jul-23-2007 11:17:

quote:
Originally posted by 3F05Q
You can load your own samples through the NN-19 and NNXT samplers. The NN-XT is actually fairly impressive once you learn how to use it. Yes, to use Loops you need to create the proper file for Dr. Rex. I really do suggest rewiring Reason, as it can open up a ton of possibilities. In a way, Reason is an open ended VST/plugin.


Yeah i saw a video on youtube how to rewire reason in FL though i'll probably do that.


Posted by Massive84 on Jul-23-2007 20:15:

Reason needs a wave editor by now yes. Hope 4.0 brings this. I have high hopes for the new sequencer.

As for vst? Substractor is quite nice synth and can do everything. Check out the youtube tutorial.

And then Thor is coming, Which seems to be a very promising synth.


Posted by Branah on Jul-23-2007 22:44:

no wave editor or audio recording for sure...

check the interview here

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jan...opellerhead.asp


Posted by Chris Crossland on Jul-24-2007 02:58:

Thats weird that a program to make music wouldnt have a wave editor or vst support...-cool points


Posted by Branah on Jul-24-2007 15:42:

Here's the cutout, for those who dont want to read it all

"People ask us 'What is your hang-up with audio, what is your hang-up with VST plug-ins? Why don't you just do it?' And I don't think there is a hang-up. We'd like to think that Reason is not a 'me too' product. There were certainly soft synthesizers before it, but something that we did — we're not exactly sure what it was — took it to another level. If we ever do hard disk recording, I'd like to try to pull off the same trick again! I don't want to just do a 'me too' thing for adding hard disk tracks to Reason; even though it would probably be practical, it's not what we are about. It's not right for us. We'd just be an inferior Cubase, and why would we want to be that?"

Now at V2, the Reason electronic music studio boasts a growing user base.
Perhaps, rather than incorporating the feature into Reason, a Propellerhead application could be purpose-developed to run in tandem with Reason? Niels doesn't rule out the possibility: "I think that's an interesting option, particularly with ReWire. I could see us having products that were the best for each recording task, rather than having one product that tries to do everything. Another thing about audio recording is that we have to be realistic about what we are capable of. If your expertise is synthesis and you have to start writing an audio editor, it would probably take several years, and then you have to question whether it would really be, after all that, so much better than anybody else's. But maybe we will."

MIDI output is next on our list of annoying questions — as Niels observes: "Ah... another one of those questions that are asked a lot. The thing with MIDI Out is that people say 'Oh, it's really easy', but it's not, actually. If you include MIDI Out, you have a host of other things you need to take into account. For example, do you need SysEx handling? We don't have that because we only need to control our own devices. The other thing is all the other tools you'll need if you are going outside to an environment that is uncontrollable and unpredictable. It would be a key strategic change for us, but also it involves a host of complications other than just making an output. For example, you'd probably need to have transpose on every track, certain other playback controls, probably a MIDI mixer as well..."

Finally, there's the issue of VST plug-ins, which certain users would like, perhaps principally to provide access to different effects. "Of course, a lot of people would love us to do it," says Niels. "But one reason is that we don't want to become a product that is a VST host, and particularly for VST plug-ins that might not be as efficient as Reason. We take pride in making reliable products, and in making them efficient, so that the user can do a lot on just one computer. One single plug-in could bring the whole thing down! And we don't want to do that. What we'd rather do is keep making instruments that can satisfy our users' appetite. We favour ReWire [for accessing VST plug-ins], not because it's our technology, but because it has become what we wanted an interface to be. Now we have Sonar on board [with ReWire support], and Cakewalk have done a great implementation, I have to say. Also Emagic, Ableton Live, Cubase, Nuendo... So it's getting there, bit by bit."

Pushed on the company's plans for Reason in the future, Ernst is circumspect: "The only thing I can say is that we will try to keep the program as focused as it is. A lot of people would like us to go into all territories and do everything that the big companies do. We're not sure that's a good idea, at least not for us. We can't do everything, so better for us to concentrate on what we do well and try to establish links — like, for example, with ReWire — to other products that provide the pieces that we can't. The future will be a natural evolution of what we have today."


Posted by Massive84 on Jul-24-2007 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by gwrmarines
Thats weird that a program to make music wouldnt have a wave editor or vst support...-cool points


It can still pull the job done quite nicely. I admit that the basic Preset arshenal and percussion samples from reason are quite weak if you compare it to Albino or Absynth presets for example.

But the sounds you can create is endless. And the fact that you only have 2 devices to do so makes it quite easier. Finding the right sound through 15 vsts installed on your pc is quite annoying imo. At least thats my share of experience.



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