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JP-8080 in Cubase SX2 - Please help

Hi
Just got a JP8080 and trying to get Cubase SX2 to trigger it by MIDI without the other instruments playing.
All of the other instruments I use are VST - this is the only hardware I have. I don't have a MIDI interface, but instead I'm using the M-Audio Keystation Pro88 as a controller and a MIDI thru device (controller connected to computer by USB, JP8080 connected to controller by MIDI cable).

The problem is that the JP8080 sounds fine when I have it selected in the Cubase track window, but when I select a different instrument, the JP still plays on top of the other instrument.
Is there a way to isolate the JP8080 so that it doesn't play when I am editing the VST instruments? I've tried setting the MIDI channel on the JP8080 to an unused channel, but then I get no sound at all. I've also tried setting the controller to "MIDI out from USB" and then the JP flashes "MIDI disconnected".

Do I need to get a MIDI hub to make all of this work?

Turn off local control. hold shift and press 5 i think and youll find it.

turn it off where? on the JP or in Cubase?

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Originally posted by bbounce turn it off where? on the JP or in Cubase?

On the JP.

Besides, you have to put the other instruments on a different MIDI channel then 1

Press EDIT, then MIDI until Local Switch appears on the display. Then press Inc to turn it off.

thanks guys, i'll try that...

hmm...unfortunately that didn't seem to do the trick. Once I turned off the local switch the sound is gone altogether.

I do have the midi channel set to 1 in Cubase, but now i'm wondering what would should the output of the Cubase midi track be set to? Since the JP is connected to my midi keyboard should I select the keyboard as the output in Cubase?

I really appreciate any help on this, guys...

Local control would should turn off "control panel -> internal synth engine" on the JP; but should still allow external triggering. Shouldn't be required for what you want.

Your problem is more then likely that your midi thru device is doing what it supposed to, passing the midi data thru to the JP.

In Cubase, try this:

a) File -> Preferences
b) Find the "Midi" page.
c) Untick "Midi Thru Active"
d) Report back

Failing all that, see the "Volume" knob in the bottom left corner of the JP?

ok, i unticked the "midi thru active" in pref erences...still no dice. In fact doing that turned off all of my VSTs sounds as well...

Perhaps the problem is that my midi controller cannot act as a midi interface? any thoughts?

the volume knob is up btw =)

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Originally posted by bbounce Perhaps the problem is that my midi controller cannot act as a midi interface? any thoughts?

There is that potential.

What is it? Does it only have one midi out port?

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Originally posted by bbounce the volume knob is up btw =)

Connect your interface to the MIDI IN/OUT of the JP. And your controller to REMOTE KBD IN.

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Originally posted by Eldritch Connect your interface to the MIDI IN/OUT of the JP. And your controller to REMOTE KBD IN.

Yes. MIDI controller should be set to REMOTE KBD IN on the 8080. I just wish it was the same on the Virus

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Originally posted by Subtle Yes. MIDI controller should be set to REMOTE KBD IN on the 8080. I just wish it was the same on the Virus

What do you mean? Why do you say that?

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Originally posted by Rusty O'Hara What do you mean? Why do you say that?

because i cannot use my JP 8000 as a MIDI Controller for Cubase, without having a MIDI interface, which i dont have. If the MIDI Thru on the Virus would work as the REMOTE KBD IN it wouldnt be a problem.

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Originally posted by Rusty O'Hara There is that potential. What is it? Does it only have one midi out port?

It's a M-Audio Keystation Pro 88. It has a MIDI OUT and a MIDI IN ports in the back. The JP8080 MIDI IN is connected to the keyboard MIDI OUT. What do you think?

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Originally posted by bbounce It's a M-Audio Keystation Pro 88. It has a MIDI OUT and a MIDI IN ports in the back. The JP8080 MIDI IN is connected to the keyboard MIDI OUT. What do you think?

M-Audio Keystation MIDI OUT --> JP 8080 REMOTE KBD IN
JP 8080 MIDI OUT --> Computer MIDI IN
Computer MIDI OUT --> JP 8080 MIDI IN

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Originally posted by Subtle because i cannot use my JP 8000 as a MIDI Controller for Cubase, without having a MIDI interface, which i dont have.

Ok, was just curious, sorry if the initial question sounded rude.

I have a JP-8080, but just have it setup with standard midi in/out configuration. I've never used the "REMOTE KBD IN" option.

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Originally posted by Subtle If the MIDI Thru on the Virus would work as the REMOTE KBD IN it wouldnt be a problem.

But the whole point of midi thru is to mirror data passed into the synth. IN/OUT/THRU is the standard on most synths, the JP is the only one I've got which has that option.

Do you use your virus over midi I presume? Or have you thought about using it over USB and using the remote templates it has? (I've never tried it myself.)

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Originally posted by bbounce It's a M-Audio Keystation Pro 88. It has a MIDI OUT and a MIDI IN ports in the back. The JP8080 MIDI IN is connected to the keyboard MIDI OUT.

Then there will always be midi data going from the controller keyboard to the JP-8080, hence your problem of it always playing.

See below:

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Originally posted by bbounce What do you think?

I don't. Hence the questions.

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Originally posted by Subtle M-Audio Keystation MIDI OUT --> JP 8080 REMOTE KBD IN JP 8080 MIDI OUT --> Computer MIDI IN Computer MIDI OUT --> JP 8080 MIDI IN

Sounds good.

...

And I thought everyone had a multiport midi interface these days?

The way I've always had my synths hooked up is via MIDI interfaces. The synth/controller goes into the MIDI in of the MIDI interface. Then to send the notes to the JP8080, go from the MIDI out of the MIDI interface to the MIDI in of the JP8080.

Then in Cubase, set up a MIDI track, find your MIDI interface's input and select it as the input, then find your MIDI interface's output and select it as the output. Then select MIDI channel 1 (I'm assuming the JP8080 is set to channel 1). Hit the "monitor" button so Cubase will send the MIDI signals through.

Then create an audio track, select the audio input the JP8080 is coming in on. Hit the "monitor" button on this track as well so you can hear the audio coming in.

Then the controller should be playing the JP8080 just fine. If not, read the JP8080 manual regarding MIDI implementation, these synths all seem to have various MIDI modes you can select. Find one that works!

But in general, controller -> computer and computer -> synth. That way you can send MIDI files out to the JP8080 and play around with the sound while the notes are playing. You don't want to have to play it in real time all the time, surely?

your midi out of your controller/midi interface should go into your midi in on the jp. the controller then is connected to the pc via usb/firewire etc..
im guessing ur controllers midi in's an out's are a midi interface?

in cubase open a midi track set the midi channel to the same midi channel that the jp is on and thats it...

midi info sent to interface then to jp then jp to soundcard and sound out monitors....unless u have a mixer then it would be soundcard> mixer >monitors

LOL do u click solo when editing vst synths???!!!

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