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What gear to get? Need some help please.

Hello, my name is Andrei and as you can see I'm new here (hope i posted this thread in the right place ).

After saving some cash for a long time (yeah, I live in Romania poor wages here) I want to buy a pair of cdjs, a mixer and some dj headphones.

I am a trance dj so I'm asking your expertise on what should I get that will blend to the music I play.
I'm a beginner with cd decks and mixers (having mixed only in ableton and software so far , on which I'm doing pretty good, but you can't be called a real DJ unless you have the real gear in your home, can you? )

My budget is a little steep as I want to order from the USA (more exacly http://www.topdjgear.com/ ) If any of you have experiences with UPS shipping from the US please tell, I really don't know what the transport from New York USA to Bucharest Romania will cost (probably 500-1000$) but anyway I will come cheaper than buying the gear from Romania (no competition, high prices).

For CDJ and the Mixer i have a 2300$ budget let's say.
I was thinking of buying two Pioneer CDJ 800 MK2 and an Ecler NUO5 Mixer. Do you have any other recommendations ?
For the mixer I really don't know what to choose, I heared that the Ecler NUO5 is a top peace of kit.

For the headphones I'm pretty sure i'll get the AKG K181, they can't go wrong

Any reply will be welcomed. Thanks in advance.

Re: What gear to get? Need some help please.

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Originally posted by AndreiD you can't be called a real DJ unless you have the real gear in your home, can you?

What is that suppose to mean?

Re: What gear to get? Need some help please.

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Originally posted by AndreiD Hello, my name is Andrei and as you can see I'm new here (hope i posted this thread in the right place ). After saving some cash for a long time (yeah, I live in Romania poor wages here) I want to buy a pair of cdjs, a mixer and some dj headphones. I am a trance dj so I'm asking your expertise on what should I get that will blend to the music I play. I'm a beginner with cd decks and mixers (having mixed only in ableton and software so far , on which I'm doing pretty good, but you can't be called a real DJ unless you have the real gear in your home, can you? ) My budget is a little steep as I want to order from the USA (more exacly http://www.topdjgear.com/ ) If any of you have experiences with UPS shipping from the US please tell, I really don't know what the transport from New York USA to Bucharest Romania will cost (probably 500-1000$) but anyway I will come cheaper than buying the gear from Romania (no competition, high prices). For CDJ and the Mixer i have a 2300$ budget let's say. I was thinking of buying two Pioneer CDJ 800 MK2 and an Ecler NUO5 Mixer. Do you have any other recommendations ? For the mixer I really don't know what to choose, I heared that the Ecler NUO5 is a top peace of kit. For the headphones I'm pretty sure i'll get the AKG K181, they can't go wrong Any reply will be welcomed. Thanks in advance.

i like this guy...

yeah man, you've done your research. all the gear you've mentioned is good. pioneers are top of the line. the nuo5 is great too. 2300 is a good amt of money to shop around with. go to agiprodj.com to get your gear. its cheap and they are authorized dealers. you can call them to get a good price on gear. the prices they have listed on their site are not the "real" prices.

good luck

AKGs are shite that break very easily

id highly sugget checking into the Sony 7506 of V6


they will last you years. my friends AKG's have gone about 6 months and he's ocd about the condition of his gear and taking care of it.


i also hated the eqs on the nuos... and i wanted one


id check out the rane empath... probably one of the absolute top mixers on the market.... especaially the rotary version!

I listened to some sonys and I really didn't like them.
The AKG K181 got 5 stars in djmag for their great sound and comfort, and on head-fi the little brother, the AKG K81, is somewhat of a little champion. Some users say that the K81 are "the best sounding under 100$ headphones" so I can only guess that the bigger brother, the k181, is a great performer. I will take the risk and see if they are worth the 199$

As for the cdj, I will surely stick with the Pioneer CDJ 800 MK2, the main reason being that the CDJ 800 MK2 and the similar and more feature packed CDJ 1000 MK3 are the most popular cdjs in clubs.

As for the mixer, a friend of mine got an Ecler NUO 4 and he is damn impressed, build quality = allen & heat , sound quality better than allen & heat, the features are wicked and overall he is extremely pleased with the mixer (bare in mind that these words are coming from an ex-Allen & Heat Xone 62 user), so I can only guess that the more evolved Ecler NUO 5 is a top peace of gear.
Also on the mixer list are the Pioneer DJM 600, Denon X-1500 and the Allen & Heat Xone 32 or the Allen & Heat Xone 62.
I really don't think that the Ranes will be too good for me as I hear they are more oriented to scratch mixing...

Also, thanks for the agiprodj link, but I really prefer the topdjgear site as they look more serious and for a couple of bucks I really don't want to take the risk from a site I don't know anything about.

If you have any suggestions please reaply.
I'm not yet sure that the Ecler NUO 5 is the perfect mixer for me, should I take the bet?
Are there any Ecler users on this forum ?

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Originally posted by AndreiD I listened to some sonys and I really didn't like them. The AKG K181 got 5 stars in djmag for their great sound and comfort, and on head-fi the little brother, the AKG K81, is somewhat of a little champion. Some users say that the K81 are "the best sounding under 100$ headphones" so I can only guess that the bigger brother, the k181, is a great performer. I will take the risk and see if they are worth the 199$ As for the cdj, I will surely stick with the Pioneer CDJ 800 MK2, the main reason being that the CDJ 800 MK2 and the similar and more feature packed CDJ 1000 MK3 are the most popular cdjs in clubs. As for the mixer, a friend of mine got an Ecler NUO 4 and he is damn impressed, build quality = allen & heat , sound quality better than allen & heat, the features are wicked and overall he is extremely pleased with the mixer (bare in mind that these words are coming from an ex-Allen & Heat Xone 62 user), so I can only guess that the more evolved Ecler NUO 5 is a top peace of gear. Also on the mixer list are the Pioneer DJM 600, Denon X-1500 and the Allen & Heat Xone 32 or the Allen & Heat Xone 62. I really don't think that the Ranes will be too good for me as I hear they are more oriented to scratch mixing... Also, thanks for the agiprodj link, but I really prefer the topdjgear site as they look more serious and for a couple of bucks I really don't want to take the risk from a site I don't know anything about. If you have any suggestions please reaply. I'm not yet sure that the Ecler NUO 5 is the perfect mixer for me, should I take the bet? Are there any Ecler users on this forum ?

Go for the Pioneer DJM-800.

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Originally posted by Cro_Addict Go for the Pioneer DJM-800.

Saadly I don't have the money for the DJM-800
Should I get the DJM-800 and instead of the two CDJ 800 MK2 get two CDJ 200 ? Is this worth it?

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Originally posted by AndreiD Saadly I don't have the money for the DJM-800 Should I get the DJM-800 and instead of the two CDJ 800 MK2 get two CDJ 200 ? Is this worth it?

no

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Originally posted by AndreiD Saadly I don't have the money for the DJM-800 Should I get the DJM-800 and instead of the two CDJ 800 MK2 get two CDJ 200 ? Is this worth it?

You will regret that choice...

Sooo... CDJ 800 MK2 + Ecler NUO 5 + AKG K181 it is
I will post some pics with the set-up in the pics set when I get it

Just out of curiosity, how come no-one suggested to andrei to go for the CDj200? I mean the only thing they lack is a vinyl emulation feature, but they make up for it with the FX (albeit very basic ones).

Considering his financial situation, it may be better to save up money on the CDJs by downgrading to CDJ200, and then improving the headphones or mixer?

So I should get 2 x CDJ 200 and a better mixer?
Btw, that is all the difference between the CDJ 200 and the CDJ 800 MK2?

I see the cdj 200 doesn't have a couple of loop buttons.

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Originally posted by AndreiD So I should get 2 x CDJ 200 and a better mixer? Btw, that is all the difference between the CDJ 200 and the CDJ 800 MK2? I see the cdj 200 doesn't have a couple of loop buttons.

No, I would go for the 800's as they are much closer to what you will find in clubs and I very much doubt you will find 200's in any club.

The Nuo5 is a great mixer and I don't really get all the fuss about the DJM 800. I don't reckon it's worth the extra coin. Also, if you do come across it in a club the difference between and Nuo5 and DJM800 in terms of usage and feel, is going to be much less than the relative difference cdj200's and cdj 800s, but that's just my opinion.

Yeah, the difference between the NUO 5(995$) and the DJM 800(1495$) is 500$
So it's CDJ 800 MK2 , Nuo 5 and AKG 181
Thank you all for your help

you see people? Andrei is a new guy. he wants some gear. he did his research BEFORE posting a thread. he asked for specific advice, gave specific details, and determined a price range.

THIS is why most people just get told to search first.

kudos man. i reckon that is a good choice. you sure about the Sony 7506s though? i don't know the headphones you listed, so i cannot comment, but the 7506s have lasted me 2 years of constant abuse so far (from my friends mostly). they don't sound like the other Sonys, so, i don't know, just check em out.

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Originally posted by Inertia you see people? Andrei is a new guy. he wants some gear. he did his research BEFORE posting a thread. he asked for specific advice, gave specific details, and determined a price range. THIS is why most people just get told to search first. kudos man. i reckon that is a good choice. you sure about the Sony 7506s though? i don't know the headphones you listed, so i cannot comment, but the 7506s have lasted me 2 years of constant abuse so far (from my friends mostly). they don't sound like the other Sonys, so, i don't know, just check em out.

I really forgot the code name of the Sonys I listened to, but I really wasn't impressed and they were quite expensive (about 100$).
But, knowing the history behind AKG and finding only great shouts about the AKG K181 I am willing to take the risk (if there is any).
Be sure I will tell you how they sound, I can compare them to the all mighty Sennheiser HD-25, so I will tell you how good they are (saw on other forums that the K181 are actually better than the HD-25, so this makes me shake a bit, and I really can't wait to have the AKG K181s on my head).
Also, I forgot to ask you about some infos on what soundcard to get for producing, as my crappy Creative isn't up to the task.
I saw some great sound cards from E-MU (the high end Creative brand), and I'm really considering buying the E-MU 0404 USB sound card, as it looks top knotch. What's your opinion on the Edirol Cards?

And aslo, (hope I'm not being to insistent here), cand you recommend a good and also not so expensive (about 100$) midi keyboard controller?
I was looking at a M-Audio, i think it will do the job

Regardless of what DJ mag has said, my experiences with the AKGs have shown them to be cheaply made. It's your choice, just be extra careful.


they also squeeze the head a bit.

im looking to buy some pioneer 1000's within the week

i was looking at

http://www.nextag.com/Pioneer-CDJ-1...154/prices-html


how come some were 1000 and some were like 1300?

why such big price ranges



i have good amount of money saved up this summer... was wondering if the 1000$ ones still up to quality... i could have enuf for a really good mixer too


help? thx

Maybe they are OPEN BOX or refurbished.
look them up on the pioneer reseller list, and if they are authorised, go buy from them, but if they aren't think twice before buying from their shop.
And always check the sites for the prices, from personal experience, some sites have fony prices

i absolutely HATE the eq's on the ecler nuo's.. i had one for awhile, i would pay the extra money for the 800

Ok, so last question :

Ecler NUO5 + 2x CDJ 800 MK2
or
Allen & Heath Xone 92 + 2x CDJ 200
or
Pioneer DJM800 + 2xCDJ200

???

I'd go with the CDJ-800s for vinyl emulation & commonality with the 1000, and whatever mixer you want.

I have a NUO4 which I got because it was a 4-channel mixer with MIDI and because it was around $700. The other mixer I was considering was a Pioneer DJM-400.

I'd go with better decks first over a better mixer, but all three you're considering (NUO5, Xone 92, DJM-800) are all solid mixers, just difference in price (but are pretty close, IIRC).

The DJM-800 and NUO5 both have onboard effects, although the Xone 92 has filters (someone with more experience with this please elaborate).

I don't think you can go wrong with any of the three- it really comes down to personal preference. It would be best if you could try all three out before you buy, but sometimes that's not always possible.

Oh, I'd also mention Ecler mixers don't have individual VU meters for each channel (apart from the newest one), and don't have very many lights and all.

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