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Posted by kwnds on Jul-24-2007 11:53:

CDJ 100s

I have one question about this CDJ: It have bpm counter?

Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-24-2007 12:15:

The sort answer is.....No.

I find it a good deck though, and I picked mine up for less than �80.
Bargain.

Posted by kwnds on Jul-24-2007 12:54:

Hmm, what you think if i get 2 cdj-100s to start and get one bpm counter?

Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-24-2007 13:07:

Don't bother with a BPM counter. learn to mix without one, they are never really totally accurate anyway, and you should train your ears so you can mix without a BPM counter.

Two cdj 100's will be fine for starting out - they may not be the most accurate because of the increments on their pitch being .1, but they will great to learn on and easy to use.

Posted by kwnds on Jul-24-2007 13:12:

Oh yes but my afraid is to take to much time to "prepare" the music with correct bpm... maybe with some weaks of trainning...

Posted by skip on Jul-24-2007 13:35:

quote:
Originally posted by kwnds
Oh yes but my afraid is to take to much time to "prepare" the music with correct bpm... maybe with some weaks of trainning...

if you never train, you'll never learn.

so stay away from bpm counters.

and cdj-100s' are good players, i still have mine (i started out with them about 4 or 5 years ago) although i'm thinking of upgrading soon.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-24-2007 15:28:

BPM counters aren't always right either. You're better off learning it properly straight from the beginning.

Posted by basilisk on Jul-24-2007 16:51:

Fifthed. Don't use BPM counters like a crutch; train your ears.

Posted by stan229 on Jul-24-2007 22:11:

i have 1 cdj-100 and 1 cdj-200

it is a lot easier to hold a mix wit hthe cdj200 but i love them both and am very happy with my purchsae

and dont use no bpm counter

Posted by Tony Morello on Jul-24-2007 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by kwnds
Oh yes but my afraid is to take to much time to "prepare" the music with correct bpm... maybe with some weaks of trainning...

not weeks, you need to be thinking in years

djing doesn't come to you overnight, you need to practice A LOT

and by a lot, i mean like 6-8 hours a day for the first 3 months a lot

Posted by DOOMBOT on Jul-24-2007 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
not weeks, you need to be thinking in years

djing doesn't come to you overnight, you need to practice A LOT

and by a lot, i mean like 6-8 hours a day for the first 3 months a lot

I wouldn't say that is necessary for everyone. Some people pick up on things faster then others and some not.

As far as the cdj100 is concerned, it is a great cd player. I would get it if that is all you are looking to settle for.

Posted by nchs09 on Jul-24-2007 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by stan229
i have 1 cdj-100 and 1 cdj-200

it is a lot easier to hold a mix wit hthe cdj200 but i love them both and am very happy with my purchsae

and dont use no bpm counter
ya the cdj200 is 100 times better than the 100.

very good cheap player! well its not really cheap.

Posted by nerdgrl416 on Jul-25-2007 00:08:

The beat counter will cripple you. I have cdj-200s and cover the beat counters with some solid tape.

Posted by Zoso on Jul-25-2007 01:34:

It's funny how things work. When I started mixing, it was shoes in a dryer all the time. I had no clue which track to speed up or slow down. It literally took months, but now it's like riding a bike. So hang in there, use your ears, and do NOT give up. One day you'll look back on it and laugh and wonder wtf you ever needed a beat counter for. You'll be glad you stuck with it. Mixing records is perhaps the most enjoyable hobby I can imagine.

Posted by nchs09 on Jul-25-2007 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
It's funny how things work. When I started mixing, it was shoes in a dryer all the time. I had no clue which track to speed up or slow down. It literally took months, but now it's like riding a bike. So hang in there, use your ears, and do NOT give up. One day you'll look back on it and laugh and wonder wtf you ever needed a beat counter for. You'll be glad you stuck with it. Mixing records is perhaps the most enjoyable hobby I can imagine.
i agree.. before i didnt know.. and now its so easy i can do it with my eyes closed (i have no tried it in phear i would nock down my cdj )

Posted by miamitranceman on Jul-25-2007 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
I wouldn't say that is necessary for everyone. Some people pick up on things faster then others and some not.

+1. Years? I don't think so.