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Help Save Toronto's Nightlife

"HELP SAVE TORONTO'S NIGHTLIFE"

It has become increasingly clear that dance clubs are no longer welcome in Toronto. Politicians are now putting extreme pressure on club owners to abandon their investments and move out of town. Several new
proposals are in the works including a hefty tax on sidewalks, a ban on new nightclubs (that contain dance floor space) and even new city taxes on alcohol and cover charges. This is being done in order to make it
difficult for nightclubs to do business in Toronto. Politicians and some lobby groups suggest that nightclubs breed nothing but violence and problems. This stereotype is simply is not true.

Why are they doing this? Simple. Condos generate more revenue for the city than nightclubs. Remember that liquor taxes, income taxes and sales taxes all go to the province and the federal government, not the city. The city makes money off of property tax which is why they seem to be willing to sacrifice anything to get up those almighty condos! The entertainment district is now prime real estate and condo developers want the city to evict the clubs so they can make their money.

Also, Clubgoers are an easy target as they tend not to vote. Condo owners do vote. This should be a lesson to everyone as to why they should make an informed choice at the ballot box. If young people voted, their considerations would be taken more into account than they are now!


What city council is sadly forgetting is that nightclubs provide thousands of jobs, vibrancy to the downtown core and generates wealth for the city. They are also a huge tourism draw especially for day trippers from the United States. Havn't I been reading lately about how desperately this city wants to have those day trip numbers increased??

Entertainment District History:

A little bit of history is in order. Basically when the entertainment district was designated back in the early 90s, the area was little more than industrial warehouses, lower income housing , massive parking lots and derelict buildings. This is why the area was regarded BY THE CITY as a desirable place for such things as nightclubs and bars. Throughout the 90s the entertainment district thrived and grew under the supervision of the city. Suddenly the area became very attractive to other investments. Condos were sold in the area with such pitches as �Live close to the excitement of Toronto�s Entertainment District� or �Live where the fun is�. Many new restaurants were opened to service clubbers and residents alike. Property values rose and new neighbours came to town. A dilapidated old building amongst a field of weeds was torn down and turned into what is now Scotiabank theatre. In short, the clubs brought a new life to this part of Toronto.

So why is it now that the city who designated this area and the condo owners who moved into this area are complaining about what they helped to build? Some of the residents were obviously there before the clubs
but why aren�t they happy that their property values have risen substantially? Why should nightclub owners, employees and patrons suffer due to poor city planning? Nightclubs employ thousands of people, bring in thousands of tourists and are a vital part of any �World Class City�.

The city of Toronto should be working with entertainment facility owners, not against them!

Nightclub owners, employees and patrons alike need to stand up together and make their voices heard.

Is this why Circa hasn't opened yet?

I say away with the nightclubs....bring on the condos....we will still find places to party.

just have the city designate another district or start making clubs outside downtown, the Spadina exit on a Friday night is always rammed, and downtown traffic, parking, one way streets, etc. is just a big hassle.

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Originally posted by Invasionmix just have the city designate another district

LOL. I didn't know if the current zone was officially designated, but since the city is doing their best to kill the club scene, you'd think they'd approve another zone for entertainment district? (Unless it's like in Rexdale or something)

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or start making clubs outside downtown, the Spadina exit on a Friday night is always rammed, and downtown traffic, parking, one way streets, etc. is just a big hassle.

Maybe it's a cliche thing, but partying outside downtown isn't the same. (Is that the main reason why the Docks isn't as popular?)

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Originally posted by beefy k Is this why Circa hasn't opened yet?

Kinda, the deal is the city is not allowing anyone to purchase land and build new clubs within the city. If you want to own a club from now on they're saying you'll have to buy off an exisiting owner and renovate that spot. I was helping some people recently who bought the 'so called' last NEW CLUB in the city and are opening this AMAZING club right across from Hotel on Peter Street..... it's going to blow it out of the water, extremely nice place. 3 different rooms....tons of space!!! Keep your ears & eyes open...

isn't that copy/paste from a facebook group?

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Originally posted by beefy k Is this why Circa hasn't opened yet?

my work backs out to Circa and there is a lot of people doing work in there. I talked to some business people leaving from there the other day. They said they're trying to open for the fall.

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Originally posted by spitty my work backs out to Circa and there is a lot of people doing work in there. I talked to some business people leaving from there the other day. They said they're trying to open for the fall.

They had a spot on Global news last year. Construction was coming along nicely- washroom bars, sauna bars!- but that's the industry I guess. A friend of mine did some business with the owners and they told him that they are going to have international DJs every week.

I spoke with many club owners and rumor is that Miller wants all the clubs outside of the city.

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Originally posted by beefy k ... they are going to have international DJs every week...

That's sad yet funny at the same time!

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Originally posted by Shaya007 That's sad yet funny at the same time!

Yea I can't see that working for very long!

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Originally posted by Ortemy I spoke with many club owners and rumor is that Miller wants all the clubs outside of the city.

Retarded if that's true.

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Originally posted by beefy k Yea I can't see that working for very long!

Why Not..??

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Originally posted by Rook Why Not..??

Tons of $.

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Originally posted by beefy k They had a spot on Global news last year. Construction was coming along nicely- washroom bars, sauna bars!- but that's the industry I guess. A friend of mine did some business with the owners and they told him that they are going to have international DJs every week.

thats exactly what republik said, and that place went from hero to zero in the EDM scene quite fast.

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Originally posted by djbruuen thats exactly what republik said, and that place went from hero to zero in the EDM scene quite fast.

Well, they went on marketing their nights wrong.

Not many people want to party hard Sun night... Not to mention their headliners for those nights weren't up to the standard that people would want to party on a Sunday for. (Judge Jules? C'mon. The Thrillseekers? Good act, but not many people would come to see the Thrillseekers by itself)

move the club disctrict to keswick. then we can make all the noise we want!!

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Originally posted by chinamon move the club disctrict to keswick. then we can make all the noise we want!!

i don't mind, i live 20min drive from it.

LOL, you guys do know that i wrote this right?

Please join the facebook group that I have created "HELP SAVE TORONTO'S NIGHTLIFE"

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2883020643

1925 strong and growing!

Thanks to freakyjunglist for helping to spread the word!

spammer.

Republik didnt happen because there wasnt enough support behind it. Originally they wanted to do a saturday night similar to how a lot of nights in Europe operate. Start a bit commercial and bring in a headliner/underground dj late in the night.

Sadly Toronto wasnt ready for that. The commercial crowd headed for the hills at 2am and the underground crowd was "too cool" to be seen with "ginos from woodbridge". Hence the end of that night.

But i digress... you should check out sats these days. All house all night. A mix of commercial house and harder stuff. It looks like for the most part we have managed to ween that crowd off the pure top 40 junk.

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Originally posted by chinamon spammer.

its a tasty meat!

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Originally posted by Ortemy I spoke with many club owners and rumor is that Miller wants all the clubs outside of the city.

Outside of the city? Like where?? Thornhill right across from the Promenade mall?? Or maybe Oshawa? That's a fuckin great idea. Make it as hard as possible for all the people living downtown to go party so it's doomed either way.

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Originally posted by geroin isn't that copy/paste from a facebook group?

yes it is. Im actually helping my friend spread the word. Awareness is key.

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