Bassline = Subwoofer only. = bad?

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Posted by cronodevir on Jul-25-2007 19:31:

Bassline = Subwoofer only. = bad?

Kinda of an odd question. But should a bassline be subwoofer only or half and half, or none? I noticed, when my kicks use the subwoofer, some people useing headphones or regular speakers, heard no kick at all, same with some of my basslines.

Should i try and even out the sub so it hits the subwoofer and the speakers? Or should i just say to heck with the cheapasses that don't have a subwoofer and continue useing it?

Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jul-25-2007 19:34:

1) what kind of monitors are you using?

2) what are you talking about?

Posted by cronodevir on Jul-25-2007 19:38:

Not useing monitors. I have a speaker system, two speakers, and a big subwoofer. If the kick comes from the subwoofer, it seems, no one with monitors or speakers or headphones can hear it. But if i raise the freq so that it coems out of the speakers, there is utterly no bassy sound at all.

Posted by DeZmA on Jul-25-2007 19:42:

Basses should come have both frequencies (low and mid) to please both the decent sound systems and the 0.01 watt computer speaker users. Try doubling your bassline to another sound or pitch one osc to a higher or lower octave.

Posted by SPAWNmaster on Jul-25-2007 20:25:

+1. also the kick should reside mostly in the mid and some in the lows depending on what sound you're going for. you should get some monitors, home speaker systems can only hurt you when producing.

Posted by camsr on Jul-25-2007 20:39:

In hip hop the bass is almost always exclusively for the subwoofer. In trance, the subbass is usually there to just reinforce the sound, because if there was no subbass at all it would sound superweak.

Posted by thecYrus on Jul-25-2007 22:45:

in trance basslines go in to very high frequencies. it's not uncommon to have them playing up to 12khz or more..

Posted by cronodevir on Jul-25-2007 23:42:

is making 604 trance btw. So i think the bass needs to be pretty sub. Almost un melodic.

Posted by kitphillips on Jul-26-2007 07:36:

Well, if your not using monitors its hard to say, lots of speaker systems these days use the sub for relatively high frequencies... On the other hand, if you had a pair of 8 inch monitors and the sub was handling all the bass, maybe that would indicate a problem.
As it is, if it sounds good your OK, but make sure you check the final mix on other speakers or headphones to make sure this bass of yours still reproduces.

Posted by thecYrus on Jul-26-2007 07:57:

wth is 604 trance

Posted by echosystm on Jul-26-2007 12:12:

quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
wth is 604 trance

its trance... but with a six, then a zero, then a four... infront of it. basically.

Posted by thecYrus on Jul-26-2007 12:29:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
its trance... but with a six, then a zero, then a four... infront of it. basically.

ah sorry, my bad.. only know 1337 trance... but this must be much better.

Posted by Sanguis Mortuum on Jul-26-2007 12:56:

quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
ah sorry, my bad.. only know 1337 trance... but this must be much better.

No, 1337 trance is more than twice as good.

Posted by AniG on Jul-26-2007 13:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
No, 1337 trance is more than twice as good.

i think ure full of it :O

Posted by cronodevir on Jul-26-2007 17:58:

604 is another way to write Goa, the common way for me, heh. It was written 604, before AOL, so that means it isn't leet speak

Posted by echosystm on Jul-27-2007 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by cronodevir
604 is another way to write Goa, the common way for me, heh.

that is so unbelievably gay.

Posted by Falck on Jul-27-2007 07:58:

As DeZmA said; basslines usually have both frequencies (low and mid). If you listen to a commercial track it works both in your mega sub system and in your lousy car stereo. The trick is to find the balance between low and mid to achieve that and good monitors are essential here.

Posted by cronodevir on Jul-27-2007 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
that is so unbelievably gay.

PFT You are 'teh' gay.

604!

Posted by AniG on Jul-27-2007 22:54:

to get back on topic once again. i remember when i was pretty newby at producing, im a little bit better now lol
but yeh, i hated it how i could never get my basses into that freq range where its like booming all over the place AND you could hear it on a good system and a crappy system.
the bass is supposed to have both low and mid freqs and sometimes even high freqs, depends what type of genre your mixing too. take a commercial song of some kind that you really like the bass and try mimicing it. you'll see that your approach to use the "sub" only is really detrimental to your mix, cause remember, not everyone out there has a booming sub or even a decent system, especially car wise. Would u like to go around with just a whole lot of treble in your track and no bass because the low freq buddies arent cutting it on your 100 watt car stereo speakers? i think noT!

Posted by Allied Nations on Jul-27-2007 23:51:

enough with the 604 nonsense guys..

Once get a better feel of what's close to reference, and what your speakers are can adjust your work habits to fit your non reference system... compensate for the difference.