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Posted by saab340 on Jul-28-2007 04:54:

Japanese influence in trance music?

I notice that in a number of trance songs, there are Japanese sounding melodies. Two of the tracks that I have in mind are:

Prometheus (original mix) by Benya.
Close your eyes feat. Tiff Lace (Andy Moor mix).

The first one especially has a break-down passage where the notes progress up and down a pentatonic scale, which makes it very Japanese sounding.

Anyone care to comment on this? Is there a Japanese influence in trance music?

John


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Jul-28-2007 05:05:

There's nothing explicit. Japan seems to have more influences on certain variants of techno than on Trance. That's not to say that individual artists don't seek out a wide range of inspiration. I myself have wanted to try to add a Chinese flavor to my own productions for a long time, but haven't been able to do much. I doubt I'm the only one who has had such thoughts.

That said, pentatonic scales aren't just a Japanese creation. The Greeks used them, too, in the olden days.


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-28-2007 09:05:

Re: Japanese influence in trance music?

quote:
Originally posted by saab340
I notice that in a number of trance songs, there are Japanese sounding melodies. Two of the tracks that I have in mind are:

Prometheus (original mix) by Benya.
Close your eyes feat. Tiff Lace (Andy Moor mix).

The first one especially has a break-down passage where the notes progress up and down a pentatonic scale, which makes it very Japanese sounding.

Anyone care to comment on this? Is there a Japanese influence in trance music?

John



there is no general japanese influence on trance. sure there are tunes with japanese samples and vocals but then again there are more trance tunes with african samples.


Posted by Ian on Jul-28-2007 10:15:

there's kinda one sound-wise in tiesto - lethal industry imo.


Posted by AustralianGQ on Jul-28-2007 14:53:

ive always liked ayu hamasaki. shes a japanese vocalist and does vocal trance!


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-28-2007 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
ive always liked ayu hamasaki. shes a japanese vocalist and does vocal trance!

I'm guessing you've never actually heard the original tracks.


Posted by AnomalyConcept on Jul-28-2007 17:22:

I actually prefer the remixes to the originals, although they fall into different genres.

It's always interesting to see how artists put their own sound and touch to a particular song, since the instrumentation is usually vastly different.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Jul-28-2007 17:25:

a LOT of trance's melodies are based on the pentatonic. you could say the same with blues too. the pentatonic just goes well with any piece written in a minor key so it's natural to use it to create melodies. i wouldn't call it "japanese."


Posted by Spacey Orange on Jul-28-2007 20:09:

Yokota

Illuminatus - Japanique (Empty Spaces ...)


Posted by Mr Moss on Jul-29-2007 01:38:

haha @ ayu = ferry

some of those mixes fit surprisingly well with her thing, like the attempts from svenson/gielen, a&b, koglin n heath,

shit even hybrid did one

not that its really a Japanese influence on trance, but reminded me of when BT opened 1 of his Essential Mixes with a godly Riyuchi Sakamoto track


Posted by PoisonJam19 on Jul-29-2007 03:22:

Do you mean like One Night In Tokyo???!!11!!


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Jul-29-2007 05:09:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
ive always liked ayu hamasaki. shes a japanese vocalist and does vocal trance!

lol @ ayu = Japanese music


Posted by AustralianGQ on Jul-29-2007 15:48:

quote:
Originally posted by thoughtlessjex
lol @ ayu = Japanese music



who said anything about japanese music u dummy. i said that ayu is a japanese singer and her songs often get remixed into trance.


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Jul-29-2007 17:02:

Re: Japanese influence in trance music?

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
who said anything about japanese music u dummy. i said that ayu is a japanese singer and her songs often get remixed into trance.

quote:
Originally posted by saab340
I notice that in a number of trance songs, there are Japanese sounding melodies....

Anyone care to comment on this? Is there a Japanese influence in trance music?

I'm just keeping to the OP's topic here.


Posted by Xevious on Jul-29-2007 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I'm guessing you've never actually heard the original tracks.


Yea the originals are horrible... Like Happy Hardcore crapola...


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Jul-30-2007 17:47:

Joujouka - Rock Is Sponge, and anything by Ken Ishii = the best Japanese EDM if you ask me.


Posted by cxe_guevara on Jul-30-2007 22:44:

Jamaster A-Bells Of Tiananmen(Airbase Remix)...


Posted by superglo on Jul-31-2007 16:25:

the japs make good trip hop / techno stuff.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-01-2007 03:36:

Satoshie Tomiee???? He does mostly hard Dance i think? lives in US?

I think he has a bit of history, from way back. Does a lot of slower smoother housey stuff as well.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-01-2007 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Satoshie Tomiee???? He does mostly hard Dance i think?

Does he fuck.


Posted by RebeL9 on Aug-01-2007 13:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Satoshie Tomiee???? He does mostly hard Dance i think? lives in US?

I think he has a bit of history, from way back. Does a lot of slower smoother housey stuff as well.


really? I thought he made speedcore. the type that makes your eyes bleed.


Posted by Abhay on Aug-14-2007 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Does he fuck.


What the fuck?


Posted by Abhay on Aug-14-2007 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
really? I thought he made speedcore. the type that makes your eyes bleed.


Assuming ur not being sarcastic, no, he doesn't do speedcore.


Posted by theognis1002 on Aug-14-2007 07:19:

quote:
Originally posted by cxe_guevara
Jamaster A-Bells Of Tiananmen(Airbase Remix)...


chinese


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Aug-14-2007 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by theognis1002
chinese

But Japan and China are the same country, didn't you know?


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