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How do you beat match a breaks track into a house track?

Being as House is based on 4/4 and breaks i'm not to sure about.Help please anyone?

breaks are 4/4

use your ears, it's not very difficult. stop relying on the kick drum and you'll see you can beatmatch anything


beatmatching is easy, but mixing into 4/4/ from breaks can be tricky because you have to deal with bringing in the kicks under the kicks of the breaks track gracefully. a lot of times for me this means some sort of drama on the eqs

To me it is the exact same as any other mix. I don't even think about if the song I'm going to mix in has a breakbeat or not.

Don't listen to the beat and it will all fall into place.

ive always used the 1st and 3rd beats

Beatmatching is a pretty stupid way of describing it anyway, I hardly ever JUST match kick drums.

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Originally posted by Zild To me it is the exact same as any other mix. I don't even think about if the song I'm going to mix in has a breakbeat or not.

+1

when i first started djing i used to kill the bass on the breaks track so i could just concentrate on matching the hats and snare. might work for you. after a while you won't need to do that though, it'll just sound "right".

I found that for me, the easiest thing to do with breaks is to phrase match it. For a split second it should sound fine and will give you an idea how things are going to sound. Then adjust your pitch accordingly to match beats.

Press play on the deck with breaks just before you hear the first beat of a phrase on the master track

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Originally posted by Andryuha Press play on the deck with breaks just before you hear the first beat of a phrase on the master track

Why in the hell would you do that? Doing so would immediately put the two tunes off-beat of each other.

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Originally posted by idoru Why in the hell would you do that? Doing so would immediately put the two tunes off-beat of each other.

well, if you press "play" just on the first beat of the phrase, it will be off beat. You have to anticipate the beginning of the phrase. Maybe I'm not describing this correctly, but in essence, I think that in this case - phrase matching first is a better idea.

Match up the hi's.

its easy: breaks usually have a snare on every second beat, house has a snare on every second beat. line them up.

what the last two guys said, match snare.

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Originally posted by Ted Promo what the last two guys said, match snare.

yup

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Originally posted by Andryuha I found that for me, the easiest thing to do with breaks is to phrase match it.

You should be doing that anyways, whether the new track is a breaks track or not.

I think the best thing is to listen to the entire song to get a feel for the tempo instead of listening for a specific type of hit like the snare/clap/kick etc...

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Originally posted by Zild I think the best thing is to listen to the entire song to get a feel for the tempo instead of listening for a specific type of hit like the snare/clap/kick etc...

+1


and personally i find it alot easier to mix the 2 if u have one earcup method of mixing...

because it separates the sounds to each ear... instead of just having a shitload of kick drums playing in both ur ears


this makes it easier to get the overall tempo of each song from the get-go instead of having to jog around to see whats going faster/slower/etc

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Originally posted by Zild I think the best thing is to listen to the entire song to get a feel for the tempo instead of listening for a specific type of hit like the snare/clap/kick etc...

I don't truly understand what you're getting at in this regard. If you're picking a big room breaks track to mix into minimal clicks and clacks then that's your own personal problem for not really knowing the track(s). Also, picking a track that's *roughly* in the ballpark of the same BPM can help, but fundamentally mixing in a breaks track is simple, no matter if the track itself just doesn't fit the sound of the set at the time, or you have to drastically adjust the BPM to make it fit.

Use your inner rhythm to keep time.
If your are white this is hard to do. If you are asian it's even harder.

See tempo and rhythm are different things.
This is what is throwing you off.
Watch this guitar player explain that concept live in this interview:

Watch 3 minutes in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HIY_IPIvCI

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Originally posted by Ted Promo I don't truly understand what you're getting at in this regard. If you're picking a big room breaks track to mix into minimal clicks and clacks then that's your own personal problem for not really knowing the track(s). Also, picking a track that's *roughly* in the ballpark of the same BPM can help, but fundamentally mixing in a breaks track is simple, no matter if the track itself just doesn't fit the sound of the set at the time, or you have to drastically adjust the BPM to make it fit.

You misunderstood I think - he's just saying you should get away from trying to match one sound and just make the songs as a whole line up. I can remember that this was a revolutionary point for me when I started doing this, it made it much easier to get tracks exactly matched if I just listened to both tracks and made the rhythms line up, so to speak...instead of making one sound hit at the same time.

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Originally posted by IntegraR0064 You misunderstood I think - he's just saying you should get away from trying to match one sound and just make the songs as a whole line up. I can remember that this was a revolutionary point for me when I started doing this, it made it much easier to get tracks exactly matched if I just listened to both tracks and made the rhythms line up, so to speak...instead of making one sound hit at the same time.

+1

take it all in, go with the flow if you will

it's almost like you just have to get into a groove and run with it

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Originally posted by Existo22 Use your inner rhythm to keep time. If your are white this is hard to do. If you are asian it's even harder.

...and I suppose if you're black it's hard to do the simple task of spelling the contraction "you're"?

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Originally posted by Beat Blog ...and I suppose if you're black it's hard to do the simple task of spelling the contraction "you're"?

Spelling aside watch the video three minutes in and he will explain to you about inner rhythm and why some races have trouble holding time.
It is not impossible it is very hard. Can't argue with genetics.
Cheers.

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