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Posted by RJT on Aug-07-2007 13:38:

DJM 800 Filters vs. Xone Filters

This is a simple question really, I just need to know if the high and low pass filters on the DJM 800 work in essentially the same manner as the high and low pass filters on the Xone.

I realize that you just turn the color knob to the right for high and left for low on the DJM, but is that really the only difference? The way you control it? How do the sounds compare?

I only ask because this weekend I'm playing a straight up techno set and really, really like to use filters when I'm layering 3 or more tunes/samples together.

Cheers.

Rob

Edit: And just FYI, I mix at home on a Xone 62 and will likely be playing on a DJM 800 this weekend, hence the question.


Posted by Konix on Aug-07-2007 13:52:

Xone's filters >>> DJM-800's


Posted by RJT on Aug-07-2007 13:53:

Right, right - I think that's well established, but we're not talking about quality here - I'm talking about function.


Posted by ClearWater on Aug-07-2007 14:00:

check out some of the replies here... i asked basically the same question

http://www.djforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114077


Posted by RJT on Aug-07-2007 14:10:

Great link, thanks boss.

That pretty much answers it all for me.


Posted by discobiscuit on Aug-07-2007 15:23:

djm800's filters blow (i have one)


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Aug-07-2007 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
djm800's filters blow (i have one)


i have one as well. its not that they blow, the DSP has solid filters, its just an extreme lack of control. there's no built-in LFO on the colour filter (although you can sort of do it with the autofilter) and there's no resonance control. so its sort of like a "standard built in filter". although it does have bandpass/notch and hi/lo filters.


Posted by discobiscuit on Aug-07-2007 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
i have one as well. its not that they blow, the DSP has solid filters, its just an extreme lack of control. there's no built-in LFO on the colour filter (although you can sort of do it with the autofilter) and there's no resonance control. so its sort of like a "standard built in filter". although it does have bandpass/notch and hi/lo filters.



yeah, they blow!


Posted by Stu Cox on Aug-07-2007 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
i have one as well. its not that they blow, the DSP has solid filters, its just an extreme lack of control. there's no built-in LFO on the colour filter (although you can sort of do it with the autofilter) and there's no resonance control. so its sort of like a "standard built in filter". although it does have bandpass/notch and hi/lo filters.

This is the main issue for me, although that doesn't render them completely useless.

They pretty much on par with the filters in the DN-X1500 if you've used them - same functionality (i.e. no wet/dry control, no resonance - just a single control to handle cut-off frequency, resonance and mix level), roughly the same sort of quality.

I've found the DN-X1500 filters very useful over the years that I've had the mixer and put the filters on the DJM800 to just as much use on the one occasion that I've played out on one - very useable for simply merging sounds a bit more cleanly, as it sounds you're wanting to do (in fact it was a techno set I was playing when I was on the DJM800 myself and used them for exactly this when getting busy with 3 decks)

But yeah give me Xone filters any day if there are some going!


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Aug-07-2007 18:12:

another thing i think is worth mentioning is that with the "autofilter" or the filter on the beat mode DSP, you can control the resonance. thats all.


Posted by RJT on Aug-07-2007 19:04:

Well, regardless of their quality - it sounds like they'll do exactly what I need them to do and nothing more.

Question answered, thread closed.



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