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Posted by Mecca82 on Aug-07-2007 23:30:

Confused cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

hello fellow TA's

im thinking bout buying cdjs... i've dreamed all along for a cdj 1000, but found out that the cdj 800 is wayyyy cheaper, and that way i can buy a better mixer too

please spill your mind about 1000 vs 800.... thank you


Posted by bucke on Aug-07-2007 23:33:

Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by Mecca82
hello fellow TA's

im thinking bout buying cdjs... i've dreamed all along for a cdj 1000, but found out that the cdj 800 is wayyyy cheaper, and that way i can buy a better mixer too

please spill your mind about 1000 vs 800.... thank you



both are completely useless. no one uses mp3's on cds. if you want to spin mp3's save yourself some money and buy either a couple of cdj1000's or 800's and a digital vinyl interface and software, like serato or torq.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Aug-07-2007 23:47:

Re: Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by bucke
both are completely useless. no one uses mp3's on cds. if you want to spin mp3's save yourself some money and buy either a couple of cdj1000's or 800's and a digital vinyl interface and software, like serato or torq.


what do they use instead of .mp3's??

sorry, just a promoter...

dont know this modern DJ shit...

audiojack and all that stuff...

learn as i go along for the ride!


Posted by bucke on Aug-08-2007 00:01:

Re: Re: Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
what do they use instead of .mp3's??

sorry, just a promoter...

dont know this modern DJ shit...

audiojack and all that stuff...

learn as i go along for the ride!


regular cds lol.....or serato if you wanna spin mp3's. a lot of clubs still have cdj1000mk2's as the standard setup, i've never seen mk3's in a club. having that many mp3's on a cd is just not practical, hard to manage the songs and hard to mix imo. and you can't mix 2 tracks on the same cd, therefore if you put a lot of mp3's on a single cd your mixing is very limited. i think the only exception between the cdj1000 mk2's and mk3's is the mp3 capability something which is not very useful. so regarding the original post, you should get cdj1000mk2's. that deck is a classic.


Posted by Mecca82 on Aug-08-2007 00:04:

i want to mix cds.. not mp3...
the reason why i ask

a new cdj 800 mk2 vs a used cdj 1000 mk2

u think a used 1000 mk2 is ok? from ebay that i can not test personally


Posted by bucke on Aug-08-2007 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Mecca82
i want to mix cds.. not mp3...
the reason why i ask

a new cdj 800 mk2 vs a used cdj 1000 mk2

u think a used 1000 mk2 is ok? from ebay that i can not test personally


i bought my mk2 off ebay a long time ago and its still working great! i don't think you have anything to worry about as long as you buy from a seller with good reputation, pioneer makes em tough as nails. a cdj800mk2 has mp3 capability, which like i said you really don't need. also the 800 series has one slight different feature than the 1000mk2 and thats the auto loop buttons and loop cutter, which the 1000 series does not. but overall the 1000mk2 has a better feel and better set of features, so definitely go with that.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Aug-08-2007 00:15:

Re: Re: Re: Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by bucke
regular cds lol.....or serato if you wanna spin mp3's. a lot of clubs still have cdj1000mk2's as the standard setup, i've never seen mk3's in a club. having that many mp3's on a cd is just not practical, hard to manage the songs and hard to mix imo. and you can't mix 2 tracks on the same cd, therefore if you put a lot of mp3's on a single cd your mixing is very limited. i think the only exception between the cdj1000 mk2's and mk3's is the mp3 capability something which is not very useful. so regarding the original post, you should get cdj1000mk2's. that deck is a classic.


okay... i got you...

when you burn .mp3's you can only play it on a computer or some shit...

as opposed to buring the actual tracks (which is like 80 minutes or so)...

i think


Posted by bucke on Aug-08-2007 00:20:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
okay... i got you...

when you burn .mp3's you can only play it on a computer or some shit...

as opposed to buring the actual tracks (which is like 80 minutes or so)...

i think



uh....regular cd's hold 80 mins of music. when you burn actual mp3's onto a cd to be played on a cd player or cdj with mp3 capability your really burning as much data as the cd can hold. i.e. 700mb of mp3 files so you can really store several hundred mp3 songs on a cd.

lol did that even make any sense? sorry i suck at explaining stuff


Posted by djgilla on Aug-08-2007 00:24:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
okay... i got you...

when you burn .mp3's you can only play it on a computer or some shit...

as opposed to buring the actual tracks (which is like 80 minutes or so)...

i think


That is correct you can play the mp3 cd on any type of device that can read mp3s such as a computer, cd player or a cdj1000mk3 that reads mp3 files from that disk. This is burnt with a maximum of 700mbs per cd. When you burn an audio cd, if it was an mp3 before, it converts it to a wav file that plays in most standard cd players and the mk2 in this example. The limit is 80 mins per disk.

I would go with the MK2 as well. Hard to manage like Bucke said and is a pain to get to tracks you are looking for. Most venues I've come across don't even have MK3's.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Aug-08-2007 00:26:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by djgilla
That is correct you can play the mp3 cd on any type of device that can read mp3s such as a computer, cd player or a cdj1000mk3 that reads mp3 files from that disk. This is burnt with a maximum of 700mbs per cd. When you burn an audio cd, if it was an mp3 before, it converts it to a wav file that plays in most standard cd players and the mk2 in this example. The limit is 80 mins per disk.


ahhh i get it...

what about buring prime rib?


Posted by bucke on Aug-08-2007 00:28:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
ahhh i get it...

what about buring prime rib?


thats a totally different story, for another thread


Posted by R!CH on Aug-08-2007 00:28:

Re: Re: Re: Re: cdj 1000 mk3 vs cdj 800 mk2

quote:
Originally posted by bucke
having that many mp3's on a cd is just not practical, hard to manage the songs and hard to mix imo. and you can't mix 2 tracks on the same cd, therefore if you put a lot of mp3's on a single cd your mixing is very limited.


1 disc, 35 tracks, 2 copies. problem solved


Posted by djgilla on Aug-08-2007 00:30:

Everyone has there own way of doing things. What method you use that makes you comfortable and works well for you is all that matters.


Posted by Mecca82 on Aug-08-2007 00:36:

ok the verdict is...

a used cdj 1000 mk2 wins over a new cdj 800 mk2???? come on guys i have only one hour left to bid on this auction hahahaah


Posted by RobertStern on Aug-08-2007 00:40:

Also, when using a disc that has all mp3s, you are 10x more prone to problems because of scratches! Unless you know your discs are in mint perfect condition, you could look really stupid when your track starts messing up in front of a crowd!

I wouldn't say pioneer builds them like nails at all!!!!

These are very expensive pieces of electronics and they need be treated that way. You need to carry them around in a flight case and don't let ANYONE near them with any kind of liquids! In this business everyone seems to be altering their consiousness in some way all the time, so accidents happen all the time.

in the 3 months i worked at Avalon we went through 5 CDJ-1000 MK2/3's

take care of your stuff and it will take care of you.


Posted by refuge on Aug-08-2007 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Mecca82
i want to mix cds.. not mp3...
the reason why i ask

a new cdj 800 mk2 vs a used cdj 1000 mk2

u think a used 1000 mk2 is ok? from ebay that i can not test personally

I would go with new CDJ-800 MK2s for the price, it has the same platter and feel as the CDJ-1000 MK2. As for the CDJ 1000-MK3, I like the improved jog dial adjustability and track display (I own both, and it's much cleaner to read, and much clearer waveforms). Also, the jog dial is less sensitive than on the CDJ-1000 MK2, something I prefer with the MK3, because I like to spin the platter back harder, it gives it more of a vinyl feel. You can adjust the jog dial anywhere from light to heavy, whatever your personal preference is. On the MK2, there is a default jog dial sensitivity which is something most DJs are fine with, but the ability to adjust jog dial sensitivity, for me, is definiteley a plus.

Also, as stated, there's MP3 playback which is impractical for most professional use, unless it's a high-quality 320kbps MP3 or Wav. You would have to make duplicates of all your CDs if you wanted to do this. Trying to remember all the tracks you burned on to the CD would become a huge pain, too.

There's also an improved loop function I'm not quite sure about.

A little review:

quote:
Pioneer have released the 3rd version of the internationally acclaimed CDJ-1000 with tweaks and improvements at every turn. The latest model includes MP3 playback in addition to the host of features available to the digital jockey. The MK3 version sees the main LED display raised upwards for ease of viewing but apart from the inclusion of MP3 playblack, little improvement has been made over the original. Full CD text and MP3 tags are supported and playback can be switched between full-vinyl mode and CD mode which mimics the jog function of the original CDJ 500s. Auto fader-start is available when used with a mixer which supports it. Despite the slightly plasticey feel of the jog dial/platter, the CDJ-1000 is deffinitley the one to go for.


Word of advice: Don't go used. If you want 1000s, get the MK3s, new! If you want MK2s, get the 800 MK2s, it's essentially the same thing as the 1000 MK2 and you save yourself the headache of sending the product back in if it gets fucked up. Plus, manufacturers warranty.

O.K., Pioneer, where's my paycheck?


Posted by kimchi on Aug-08-2007 08:14:

there are no real major differences in the mk2 and the mk3 besides the mo3 capability and the mk3 has a better lcd display and wave display.

i have a pair of mk2's and i love em


Posted by Mecca82 on Aug-08-2007 15:51:

ok now i have decided with 2 800 mk2s

i personally preferred a new 800 mk2 over a used 1000 mk2... sadly i have always wanted a cdj 1000... seems like the 800mk2 has been upgraded, specially the wheel is exactly similar to the 1000 mk2... which is a big deal for me, other than that i couldnt find any of the major differences other than hot cueing and hot loop, and also the memory card slot...

any last minute word of advice??? making the purchase in 20 minutes...


Posted by D:Jay on Aug-08-2007 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Mecca82
ok now i have decided with 2 800 mk2s

i personally preferred a new 800 mk2 over a used 1000 mk2... sadly i have always wanted a cdj 1000... seems like the 800mk2 has been upgraded, specially the wheel is exactly similar to the 1000 mk2... which is a big deal for me, other than that i couldnt find any of the major differences other than hot cueing and hot loop, and also the memory card slot...

any last minute word of advice??? making the purchase in 20 minutes...


A few months ago I switched from the 800mk2 to the 1000mk2, (both "used") due the reasons peeps including you have pointed out in here. The only other difference between the 2 of them that bothered me was the "tick" on the 0 of the pitch control with the 800's.

The other thing I wanted to bring up is "Be careful" with online auctions. There's too many scammers out there. I just quit buying +$300 items on online auctions. I rather buy from locals where I can inspect the items specially if they are "used'.

Hope you got what you wanted!


Posted by progressiveMOJO on Aug-08-2007 22:16:

bottom line: if you're playing at home, all you will ever really need is 800's. If you're playing at a club, they'll have 1000's there for you.

so save your money and buy 800's.



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