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Posted by Cosmic on Aug-13-2007 17:06:

Arrow The return of male-vocal trance

It noticed me that in 2007 al lot of (good!) male vocal songs come by, relatively more than other years.

To mention a couple:

Aly & Filo - The Anthem
Tiesto - Break my fall/In the dark
Snow patrol - Open your eyes (Allende remix)
rogue wave - eyes (allende intro mix)
Dogzilla - Frozen
The Killers - Read my mind (G&D remix)
Nic Chagall - What You Need
Meck ft Deno Lenny - Feels like home
FKN feat. Jahala - Why (Aly and Fila remix)
Carl B ft Breaking Benjamin - The diary of Jane

And I must say, they aren't any worse than female-vocal trance.

Are there others this year, and what causes this phenomenon?


Posted by smakmagik on Aug-13-2007 17:09:

Re: The return of male-vocal trance

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic
(good!)

phenomenon?


really??


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-13-2007 17:10:

Half of those are remixes of rock tracks, so I wouldn't even call them trance.

And A&F didn't make The Anthem (and why you even listed that piece of shit is beyond me).


Posted by Cosmic on Aug-13-2007 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Half of those are remixes of rock tracks, so I wouldn't even call them trance.

And A&F didn't make The Anthem (and why you even listed that piece of shit is beyond me).


Okay then, Filo & Peri

So because you dont like it, its shit? Hmm, interesting....


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-13-2007 17:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic
So because you dont like it, its shit? Hmm, interesting....

No, it's not shit because I don't like it - I don't like it because it's shit. It represents everything that's wrong with trance today. In fact, I'd be hesitant to call it trance at all. It's an extended pop track with a 4/4 beat.


Posted by Branah on Aug-13-2007 17:18:

^ what he said...

its not about taste, its about crappy lyrics and vocals, shitty arrangement and melody... pretty much everything about Anthem is ultracrap


Posted by smakmagik on Aug-13-2007 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
It's an extended pop track with a 4/4 beat.


just because artists have made trance before, doesnt make every track of theirs 'trance'. I agree with what Mr.Mystery says, every single track on that is extended rock/pop. I have nothing against vocals in tracks, but if this is the way they are going to be used and paraded as trance, then it's pretty friggin depressing


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-13-2007 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by smakmagik
except the last one

Actually...

http://www.discogs.com/release/810106


Posted by smakmagik on Aug-13-2007 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Actually...

http://www.discogs.com/release/810106


well, there you go.
earlier post edited


Posted by isoterra on Aug-13-2007 17:30:

most male vocal trance i can't stand, eugh. there are a few exceptions though.. kuffdam & plant's 'the ones we loved' was quite ok


Posted by Scoops on Aug-13-2007 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
most male vocal trance i can't stand, eugh. there are a few exceptions though.. kuffdam & plant's 'the ones we loved' was quite ok


Kyau vs. Albert - Velvet Morning(Micro De Govia Rmx)

...gets my vote as best male vocal trance tune


Posted by Arteh on Aug-13-2007 18:10:

ronki speed worked some realy nice male vocal tracks out


Posted by Ted Promo on Aug-13-2007 18:42:

Which one of those is the good one?


Posted by DJ Indus Creed on Aug-13-2007 18:58:

Arrow

There are quite a few good EDM tracks/mixes with male vocals.

Paul Van Dyke - The Other Side
Coldplay - Talk (Junkie XL Mix)

Just to name a couple.


Posted by TranceArmstrong on Aug-13-2007 19:11:

Re: The return of male-vocal trance

I don't want to rip on you too bad because I love Michael Scott and the Office but I think you are severly misguided on some of these songs.


quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic
To mention a couple:

Aly & Filo - The Anthem
Tiesto - Break my fall/In the dark
Dogzilla - Frozen
Nic Chagall - What You Need




If I had to make a top ten worst tracks list of the year, these four would be on it. Those rock remixes are nice, I got nothing against the Killers and Snow Patrol and Breaking Benjamin mixes, a little cheesey I guess but that's fine. But shit tracks like The Anthem and What You Need just make me squirm. The vocals are so over the top cheesey it's unlistenable. Frozen is especially shameful because Simon Patterson is a pretty solid trance producer usually.

This is coming from someone who generally enjoys Kyau and Albert by the way, so it's not like I hate it just because it's male vocal trance.


Posted by AustralianGQ on Aug-14-2007 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Branah
^ what he said...

its not about taste, its about crappy lyrics and vocals, shitty arrangement and melody... pretty much everything about Anthem is ultracrap


no its totally about taste with u, u clearly dont like the song at all. alot of ppl like this song and alot of u dont...u think all ppl who have been listening to trance for a few years or more hate it and only the newbs like it? well then ur clearly wrong and a dummy for thinking that....their is nothing wrong with the production of the song, i like it.

its about personal taste, not talent or production.


Posted by AustralianGQ on Aug-14-2007 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by smakmagik
just because artists have made trance before, doesnt make every track of theirs 'trance'. I agree with what Mr.Mystery says, every single track on that is extended rock/pop. I have nothing against vocals in tracks, but if this is the way they are going to be used and paraded as trance, then it's pretty friggin depressing



none of those songs are rock/pop. most are trance whether u wanna admit that or not......u obviously have a narrow vision as to what trance is so theirfore most stuff doesnt get thrown in. their are a few remixes there from rock songs, and they may not be pure trance. but that doesnt make them a bad song at all.


Posted by smakmagik on Aug-14-2007 00:16:

....

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
none of those songs are rock/pop. most are trance whether u wanna admit that or not......u obviously have a narrow vision as to what trance is so theirfore most stuff doesnt get thrown in. their are a few remixes there from rock songs, and they may not be pure trance. but that doesnt make them a bad song at all.


You can be of the opinion that any of those songs is good. I won't try and force my opinion on you.

But if you think that the anthem, and what you need and read my mind etc aren't pop rock songs at best, and want to include them in your 'broad' definition of trance, then so be it. You might like them, but seriously, classifying them as trance is just sad.


Posted by Arraias on Aug-14-2007 01:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
No, it's not shit because I don't like it - I don't like it because it's shit. It represents everything that's wrong with trance today. In fact, I'd be hesitant to call it trance at all. It's an extended pop track with a 4/4 beat.


+ 1


Posted by Trancefxs on Aug-14-2007 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by AustralianGQ
its about personal taste, not talent or production.

Because you never heard a really well made male trance vocal track, I suppose you missed the thread a while ago about this great prodution:

Amoeba Assassin - Piledriver


Posted by wotyzoid on Aug-14-2007 02:04:

A&B's Alone Tonight is one of if not the best male vocal trance track I've heard to date it was done very neatly and overall it fit well together. Unfortunately that isn't saying much. How you can consider those tracks good...is beyond me.


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Aug-14-2007 02:52:

At this point, the only male vocal trance track I've been able to enjoy thoroughly is Underworld - Dark and Long (Dark Train Mix). All the other stuff simply isn't trance, or is shit.


Posted by theognis1002 on Aug-14-2007 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
A&B's Alone Tonight is one of if not the best male vocal trance track I've heard to date it was done very neatly and overall it fit well together. Unfortunately that isn't saying much. How you can consider those tracks good...is beyond me.
+1

i also always loved Josh Gabriel - Alive too. it was good and the vocals didnt overpower or sound cheesy.


Posted by phant0m on Aug-14-2007 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Trancefxs
Because you never heard a really well made male trance vocal track, I suppose you missed the thread a while ago about this great prodution:

Amoeba Assassin - Piledriver

The Grayed Out Mix is f.cking stunning and still sounds fresh!


Posted by Ishkur on Aug-14-2007 18:23:

Return?

Was there ever once a surplus excess of male-dominated vocal trance?


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