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I'm curious as to what everyone thinks about a proposed change to the Highway Traffic Act. The Ontario government has proposed an expanded definition of street racing that would charge even solo drivers who exceed the speed limit by more than 50km/h.
In the spring, Premier McGuinty enacted tougher street racing laws that increased maximum fines to $10,000 and permitted police to seize cars for up to a week.
Nearly 40 people have died in the GTA since 1999 because of racing.
Disagree. 50 over is really not that much - if you were racing, you'd be over far more than that. In July, I got busted doing 130 in an 80. It was through Algonquin Park, on Saturday morning (so there was no one else on the road). I know when I drive recklessly, and that wasn't it. 100 over the limit sounds more accurate to nab street racers, not just speeders.
Good move I say.
Really, once you start pushing 30km/h over the speed limit regardless of where you are, its starting to become reckless driving, especially once you start getting mixed in with people who are driving the speed limit, and the old-fogies who are going under it.
There is no reason to be going 50km/h above the speed limit, and IMO - you deserve what you get for going that fast.
I agree completely......if you are doing 50 km/hr over the speed limit you are a danger to everyone on the road. IMO....if you are caught doing more then 50 km/hr over the speed limit you should have your licence taken away permanently.
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| Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Disagree. 50 over is really not that much - if you were racing, you'd be over far more than that. In July, I got busted doing 130 in an 80. It was through Algonquin Park, on Saturday morning (so there was no one else on the road). I know when I drive recklessly, and that wasn't it. 100 over the limit sounds more accurate to nab street racers, not just speeders. |
150 on a highway is nothing!
100 in a 50 zone, yeah, different story
150km/h on the highway is too much. It'd be one thing if the speed limit was 120-130 and the majority of the traffic was moving at that speed. But when the limit is 100 - having people going 50/over is too fast.
Going 20-30 over is fine, especially if most traffic is moving along at that speed anyways, but 40-50 over is pushing it.
Obviously there will be some discretion left to the officer.
If you're weaving through lanes on the 401 at 150km/h, that's a lot different than going 130km/h on some back road up in the sticks.
Also, keep in mind that the majority of speeding tickets issued have already been reduced one grade (ie: getting stopped doing 120km/h in a 100km/h zone and getting cited for 115km/h)at the time of citation to mitigate the number of people who fight speeding tickets and force the officer into court on days off and time that could be spend on patrol.
I agree with the charge. I disagree with confiscating and crushing people's cars. The government should NEVER have the right to do that. It's just one more step toward becoming a totalitarian state,
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| Originally posted by Sasha 150 on a highway is nothing! 100 in a 50 zone, yeah, different story |
Coming from someone who has been ticketed (and summoned to court) for speeding (154km/h on the 400) - I'm all for it.
I was younger, more careless, and drove like I owned the fucking road. After that, I still ended up getting two more tickets shortly there after. By the following year, I had 5 tickets on my record and was in jeopardy of losing my license with a 6th.
After that, I was paying $4000 for insurance (every six months).
Enforcing something like this will just give younger dickwads (like myself at that age) more to think about when they push the pedal to the metal, therefore less likely to put others in danger.
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| Originally posted by Dr. DAS Nearly 40 people have died in the GTA since 1999 because of racing. |
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| Originally posted by Orko OMG 40 whole people? The number of other problems which have killed more people are endless. Lets take care of those first. |
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| Originally posted by Jeff Button Enforcing something like this will just give younger dickwads (like myself at that age) more to think about when they push the pedal to the metal, therefore less likely to put others in danger. |
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| Originally posted by Orko OMG 40 whole people? The number of other problems which have killed more people are endless. Lets take care of those first. |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1I disagree with confiscating and crushing people's cars. The government should NEVER have the right to do that. It's just one more step toward becoming a totalitarian state |
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| Originally posted by ItalianPoiSon Street Racing is with 2 or more cars ripping down a highway/road way..... its dumb u dont race ur self(except time attacks)...... |
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| Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Disagree. 50 over is really not that much - if you were racing, you'd be over far more than that. In July, I got busted doing 130 in an 80. It was through Algonquin Park, on Saturday morning (so there was no one else on the road). I know when I drive recklessly, and that wasn't it. 100 over the limit sounds more accurate to nab street racers, not just speeders. |
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| Originally posted by Jeff Button Yeah, hardly a huge number - but still.... that doesn't include the number of seriously injured, vehicle damage, traffic jams, road rage, etc. 50km over is too much, no matter where you're driving. Sasha makes an obvious point that 100 in a 50 is much worse.... but I don't think 150 is justifiable on any highway, at any time. |
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| Originally posted by Sasha 150 on a highway is nothing! |
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| Originally posted by tobywan Tell that to the family and friend's of the Truck Driver who was killed earlier this summer from two fucking idiotic drivers, and see what kind of reaction you get. Sorry, but driving in any sort of reckless manner just touches a nerve with me...highway laws exist for a reason people. |
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| Originally posted by Sasha agreed, i just explained myself a little bit better above. |
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| Originally posted by tobywan The fact that you're trying to justify excessive speeding in ANY manner (no matter where it takes place), makes you a retard. |
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| Originally posted by tobywan I saw that, and I understand your clarification. However, how many people that do drive 130/140/150 have even the option of staying in the same lane for an extended period of time at any given time of day? Eventually you're gonna have to change lanes to get around the car that will inevitably be in front of you, right? |
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| Originally posted by tobywan The fact that you're trying to justify excessive speeding in ANY manner (no matter where it takes place), makes you a retard. |
While we're on the topic of driving - how about they start handing out tickets to the fucktards who are doing a buck-five in the passing lanes who refuse to move due to their strange obsession with driving in the left lane!? FUCK YOU ASSHOLE - STAY OUT OF THIS LANE UNLESS YOU ARE PASSING FUCK!
It is idiots like this who force some drivers (like myself) to unnecessarily change lanes (sometimes weaving) to get by.
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| Originally posted by Jeff Button While we're on the topic of driving - how about they start handing out tickets to the fucktards who are doing a buck-five in the passing lanes who refuse to move due to their strange obsession with driving in the left lane!? FUCK YOU ASSHOLE - STAY OUT OF THIS LANE UNLESS YOU ARE PASSING FUCK! It is idiots like this who force some drivers (like myself) to unnecessarily change lanes (sometimes weaving) to get by. |
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