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Posted by Zombie0729 on Aug-16-2007 00:22:

Beatport Sales

maybe this is better here:

hey guys need some quick help here. Anyone know what the top 10 tunes on beatport average retail sales are. Are they selling 200 copies a week, do the top downloads hit the thousands?

i understand everything is subjective i'm just trying to get a gage.


Posted by System101 on Aug-16-2007 02:40:

as far as im aware.. into the thousands.. my friend Mark Mendes was up there as #1 for a few weeks on the main top 10. i can ask him when i get a chance.


Posted by xcalator on Aug-16-2007 10:33:

hey !!
I know that if you enter the top 5 at , only, Beatport, staying for 2 or 3 weeks, you can sell up to 10.000 downloads!!!
So big seller like prydz... etc... can makes about 2000/3000 euros per releases only on beatport


Posted by Zombie0729 on Aug-16-2007 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
that must be exagurated?


if i was to guess i'd say it take 250-500 sales a week to break into the top 10... maybe totalling over 1000 sales to keep their spot?

either way, i think a couple thousand has to be the max on this


Posted by Ry Thomas on Aug-16-2007 19:15:

10,000 sales from 1 download site in 1 week is highly excessive. Bearing in mind the national chart only takes as little as 6000 units to make it to number 1 in a week. The people at the top of the beatport top 10 will be doing good sales but more hundreds rather than thousands


Posted by zodiac9 on Aug-17-2007 00:01:

A friend of mine is an A&R for a digital label. I can't recall exactly what he told me, but the numbers are much much lower than that for top sales. I'm pretty sure he told me that the average top seller sold an average of 80 copies, then sales will drop off quickly and dry up. Pretty depressing, eh? On rare occasions, an artist will reach the 200 mark.

The digital market is just extremely slow. There's such a huge glut of digital labels and releases, the market is saturated. Most customers aren't willing to sample more than 3 or 4 releases a day.


Posted by echosystm on Aug-17-2007 00:29:

moral? learn how to dj.


Posted by zodiac9 on Aug-17-2007 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
moral? learn how to dj.


Yep, either that, or get signed to a real record label. Or, give your tracks out to DJs for free, you're tracks are a lot more likely to get heard that way.


Posted by cl0ckw3rk on Aug-17-2007 01:27:

quote:
Originally posted by zodiac9
Or, give your tracks out to DJs for free, you're tracks are a lot more likely to get heard that way.


As both producer and DJ, I completely agree with this.


Posted by Eric J on Aug-17-2007 04:26:

Also, never underestimate the power of getting your track played on TATW or ASOT. I know TATW takes submissions through anjunabeats.com. I notice that a lot of the top 100 in the trance category on Beatport are straight off of the playlists of some of these shows.

Also, Breakfast got noticed by handing his track to Ferry Corsten (i think it was Ferry) at a show, and that kids only 18! Granted, that might not always be feasable, but for those of you going out every weekend, keep a CD of your freshest stuff on you at all times. You never know who you might run in to. If you music is good and you can get it in the hands of the right people, it'll get noticed.


Posted by xcalator on Aug-17-2007 09:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Ry Thomas
10,000 sales from 1 download site in 1 week is highly excessive. Bearing in mind the national chart only takes as little as 6000 units to make it to number 1 in a week. The people at the top of the beatport top 10 will be doing good sales but more hundreds rather than thousands

Hey,
When I say 10.000 is for 2/3 weeks staying in the main top 5, Not top 10.
And I'm talking about big name/big seller :-)
Mike said it to me some weeks ago.I think it's not fake.
Anyway... beatport is still the best for sells...and radio show a nice way to promote stuffs
Klems.


Posted by echosystm on Aug-17-2007 09:47:

3,000 Euro is still bugger all. Think about how good a song has to be to get to the top 5 for that long... !

Even crap dj's get $500 a night.


Posted by tylerc on Aug-17-2007 09:50:

Per a conversation with a beatport exec, the highest selling track in the history of beatport had something in the neighborhood of 8000 downloads (as of march 07). i may have misheard him, but i remember the number being significantly lower than i would have guessed.

i would imagine that if a track stayed in the top 10 chart for ~1 month it would probably gather up around 5-6000 downloads.


Posted by System101 on Aug-17-2007 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
what track was that?\


go look at the march charts on beatport...


Posted by kopi_luwak on Aug-17-2007 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
if i was to guess i'd say it take 250-500 sales a week to break into the top 10... maybe totalling over 1000 sales to keep their spot?

either way, i think a couple thousand has to be the max on this

Ha, that's really exagerated, the true is you can get there with very few sales.
My friend, Bebop was in first place in the Tribal chart, with only 23 downloads at beatport, headstrong was first seller over audiojelly for three weeks, only with 30 or sort of, seriously, you wont get bucks selling digitally at all, all those 10 000, etc, are crazy, maybe big names like Pryds, but any other mortal like us not even dreaming.
Where really money comes:

1 - Licenses (Above all for Movies, TV, Radio, etc.

2 - Compilations (Only if your label is good and actually has exposure)

Kopi =o.


Posted by bobba lou on Aug-18-2007 21:07:

they take about 40% of sales which = marketing, bandwidth, and store front


Posted by djbruuen on Aug-19-2007 05:52:

making money on music sales is pretty dismal. as stated, media is the only 'real' place to make money, whether it be tv, commercials, film, documentaries or internet based. Its really sad how an incredible EDM song will end up making $1000 if its lucky, but a crappy overplayed hip hop song, lands rappers into dream homes. Not very fair, but we kind of accept that fate in this industry.


Posted by daeus on May-21-2008 10:49:

If you love music enough to produce it you should have no problem complimenting it with Dj'ing so get out there and promote yourself..

I know thats where I want to head.


Posted by kevin shawn on May-21-2008 19:13:

Anthony I have a friend that is good friends with one of the main dudes over at beatport, let me see if I can get his aim name...



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