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Posted by tjpatel on Aug-17-2007 02:48:

Inside Daft Punk's pyramid / live CD announced

From the Urb Blog http://www.urb.com

Everybody's fave robots, Daft Punk, have announced a live CD to be released in Novemeber, according to Billboard. The CD will feature the groups performance in Paris on June, 14, 2007, an interesting choice considering that a recording of that particular night is already all over the P2P. The release will come as a single CD, or a double CD which will include the show's encore. No word yet on a DVD, so for now you'll just have to keep reliving the duo's Coachella set video .

And the new Mixmag features a great look inside the Daft Pyramid, with Thomas Bangalter giving a rudimentary breakdown of the gear they use. (danke Daily Swarm )


1. ABLETON
�The show revolves around Ableton Live software on custom made super-computers, which we remotely access and control with Behringer BCR2000 midi controllers.�
2. SCREENS
�Next to the ethernet remote computer screens there are four Minimoog Voyagers, the classic analog synthesizers. They�re a 30-year old design.�
3. MOOGS
�We can mix, shuffle, trigger loops, filter, distort samples, EQ in and out, transpose or destroy and deconstruct synth lines. We keep some surprises on the side too!�
4. VISUALS
�There�s a direct connection between our rig and the lights and visuals of the show. The light and video engineers can also add or control layers during the show.�
5. SYNTHS
�Inside the pyramid are synthesizers and remote controls connected to the rest of the music equipment and computers, which are in rack-mounted towers off stage.�
6. TEAMWORK
�Working the music equipment, lighting and video equipment, and building the pyramid for each show takes around 10 people, including both of us.�



Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Aug-17-2007 03:14:

WOW, that set-up is cool!


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Aug-17-2007 04:00:

anyone can give a rough estimate of the value of all that equipment?

and yes, wicked cool.


Posted by shaw on Aug-17-2007 04:39:

they didn't mention that those "screens" are some version of these:

http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php

[the lights & logo are the same, but in different spots, so they're either prototypes or customized]


Posted by DJ Patski on Aug-17-2007 06:35:

Now thats a setup.


Posted by Ishkur on Aug-17-2007 10:39:

Daft Punk makes Tiesto in Concert look like a retarded puppet show.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Aug-17-2007 12:32:

thats about 15k right there id say since the lemurs are around 3000 each. there's an entire discussion about this on the Ableton forums which I won't get into because i dont feel like getting flamed but I'll just say that i think they are entirely overrated for what they do and for Live PA be sure to check out BT or trentemoller or Bjork instead as they are not all hype.


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-17-2007 12:52:

Why would they need "super computers" to begin with ? I mean, in what way do they mix their music differently compared to other DJs ? They are using Ableton, so that takes care of many things. Most DJs are alone and fiddle with a lot of equipment themselves.


Posted by Dojomaster26 on Aug-17-2007 13:06:

I'm just glad to see a new Daft Punk CD, and a live one at that!

And that pyramid...sexy


Posted by Asperge on Aug-17-2007 13:11:

Holy fuck what a massive setup Can't wait to hear this, Ill always like DP


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-17-2007 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
thats about 15k right there id say since the lemurs are around 3000 each. there's an entire discussion about this on the Ableton forums which I won't get into because i dont feel like getting flamed but I'll just say that i think they are entirely overrated for what they do and for Live PA be sure to check out BT or trentemoller or Bjork instead as they are not all hype.



Maybe... But if you've ever seen someone use it who has computer coding knowledge and some out of the box thinking... they seem worth it.


I've seen some crazy custom interfaces that you just would never see without that sort of controller.

+gravity balls


Sick photo.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Aug-17-2007 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
Why would they need "super computers" to begin with ? I mean, in what way do they mix their music differently compared to other DJs ? They are using Ableton, so that takes care of many things. Most DJs are alone and fiddle with a lot of equipment themselves.


well they do a lot of live PA stuff not just spinning one record then the next...so they need machines that can handle 15-30 channels going live easily which explains the need for super machines. it's too bad the music is a bit basic and mostly recycled samples but their a big hit in the commercial world.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Aug-17-2007 13:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
Maybe... But if you've ever seen someone use it who has computer coding knowledge and some out of the box thinking... they seem worth it.


I've seen some crazy custom interfaces that you just would never see without that sort of controller.

+gravity balls


Sick photo.


agreed allied. the way i see it though stephan bodzin puts more use to the lemur using Max/msp and ableton live more than these 2 do...and personally I'm looking into getting the lemur myself so i can appreciate how much you can do with it. the problem is daft punk isnt doing anything different in the past 10 years other than using newer technology to do the same thing. if you look at BT using c_sound for live performance merits more points in my books than using a custom lemur interface to loop samples.


Posted by jupiterone on Aug-17-2007 13:30:

I can't see the super computers.

My bet is, since the Lemur has ethernet connect and has the ability to connect to computers in different locations, I'd think they're remotely connected to their studio PC's or something similar.

That's a pretty custom design for the lemur though.


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-17-2007 13:38:

I think the CD cover mentions that they have a lot of computer equipment backstage. So I'm guessing that's where the super computers are located.


Posted by keithos27 on Aug-17-2007 14:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Daft Punk makes Tiesto in Concert look like a retarded puppet show.


haha, nice


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-17-2007 14:20:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
agreed allied. the way i see it though stephan bodzin puts more use to the lemur using Max/msp and ableton live more than these 2 do...and personally I'm looking into getting the lemur myself so i can appreciate how much you can do with it. the problem is daft punk isnt doing anything different in the past 10 years other than using newer technology to do the same thing. if you look at BT using c_sound for live performance merits more points in my books than using a custom lemur interface to loop samples.


you can hear how bodzin uses it and how its shaped his sound...


same thing with an artist like daedelus and that 16x16 light box thingie


Posted by bobba lou on Aug-17-2007 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
thats about 15k right there id say since the lemurs are around 3000 each. there's an entire discussion about this on the Ableton forums which I won't get into because i dont feel like getting flamed but I'll just say that i think they are entirely overrated for what they do and for Live PA be sure to check out BT or trentemoller or Bjork instead as they are not all hype.


totally agree.


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Aug-17-2007 14:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
you can hear how bodzin uses it and how its shaped his sound...


same thing with an artist like daedelus and that 16x16 light box thingie


i think daedelus was using the prototype for the Monome unless im mistaken...something i want to get eventually


Posted by DJ Indus Creed on Aug-17-2007 15:31:

Talking

I would wait for one of these super-computers to crash/hang-up/freeze/spawn some mischievious process etc.

I am sure the outcome would be a really innovative music. Trnnnnng.tronggggg..trennnnnnnnnnnnn..clunggggggggggg


Posted by shaw on Aug-17-2007 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
i think daedelus was using the prototype for the Monome unless im mistaken...something i want to get eventually


Daedelus built his "light box" on his own. It's a one-of-a-kind custom job. The Monome was then designed by a couple other guys, based on that concept. He still uses his giant wooden thing, though.

Daedelus's is 16x16, in 16 4x4 groupings. The original monome is 8x8, but you could link a few of them together. They're making new ones, though:



the main difference, aside from the size of the actual buttons (daedelus's are each a little bigger than the eraser on a pencil & round, the monome's are a only a bit smaller than those on most drum machines & square), is the added functionality of the monome, where the 'light box' is just a fancy sequencer.


Does anybody know anything more about those Lemurs, though? I haven't seen or heard anything about any revisions to it, and that's clearly not the layout of the original.


Posted by LoveHate on Aug-17-2007 18:28:

cool anyone know if daft punk are workin on a new album?


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Aug-17-2007 19:15:

thanks for that information inconspicuous! i learn something new everyday...

as far as the lemur is concerned its got a growing community (soon to be including myself ) the layout hasnt been changed at all recently but you can see all the details at www.jazzmutant.com . they release Dexter fairly recently following the 1.6 firmware update but that's pretty much it. apparently they've dissolved Jazzmutant as an independant body and is now the musical subsidiary of a multi-touch technology corporation. At siggraph they had a presence recently and are supposed to make some sort of anouncement soon. Also an up-and-coming update will bring dual-boot functionality to the hardware allowing both Lemur and Dexter systems to operate in the same hardware.

Cheers.

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
Daedelus built his "light box" on his own. It's a one-of-a-kind custom job. The Monome was then designed by a couple other guys, based on that concept. He still uses his giant wooden thing, though.

Daedelus's is 16x16, in 16 4x4 groupings. The original monome is 8x8, but you could link a few of them together. They're making new ones, though:



the main difference, aside from the size of the actual buttons (daedelus's are each a little bigger than the eraser on a pencil & round, the monome's are a only a bit smaller than those on most drum machines & square), is the added functionality of the monome, where the 'light box' is just a fancy sequencer.


Does anybody know anything more about those Lemurs, though? I haven't seen or heard anything about any revisions to it, and that's clearly not the layout of the original.


Posted by shaw on Aug-17-2007 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by SPAWNmaster
thanks for that information inconspicuous! i learn something new everyday...

as far as the lemur is concerned its got a growing community (soon to be including myself ) the layout hasnt been changed at all recently but you can see all the details at www.jazzmutant.com . they release Dexter fairly recently following the 1.6 firmware update but that's pretty much it. apparently they've dissolved Jazzmutant as an independant body and is now the musical subsidiary of a multi-touch technology corporation. At siggraph they had a presence recently and are supposed to make some sort of anouncement soon. Also an up-and-coming update will bring dual-boot functionality to the hardware allowing both Lemur and Dexter systems to operate in the same hardware.

Cheers.


I actually meant the specific ones in the pyramid, since the lights are usually on the top right, & the logo on the top left (and it's longer horizontally than from front to back, so even if they'd just spun it around, the lights would still be on the wrong side, and in the wrong corner). Made me wonder if maybe there was another version in the works or if they'd just taken one apart & changed some stuff on their own.

Actually hadn't heard about the Dexter yet, though. Going to have to go read up on that. I've wanted a Lemur for a while, too. Probably the single coolest piece of equipment I've seen, but for $2600...it'll have to wait...heh.



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