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Could you guys 'define' Deep House for me?

I consider myself fairly uninformed when it comes to the many genres of house these days. I tend to call it all Progressive House. Apparently, I'm wrong.

Could any of you guys help me out with a better understanding of exactly what makes Deep House different? Technical bits and pieces, or whatever?

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808 Download the set in the first post of this thread and your question will be answered.

Thanks for the link

Lol, I'm actually listening again to nefardec's latest set as we speak, which sorta prompted the thread

But I was looking for maybe a more technical definition, if there is one? Like, how would I be able to tell the difference between prog house and deep house, just by listening? Is there something specific? Or just the 'feel' of it?

They're pretty similar. Progressive is generally used to refer to the dark atmospheric stuff with long pads, echoes and spacey effects. Deep house is more often used to refer to the more funk and jazz-influenced variety. Deep house also tends for have more vocals and accoustic parts, whereas prog feels more dubby.

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I'm not a house person but this radio station has some very neat stuff from time to time. I think you could define most of the music being played on that radio, or parts of it, as deep house.

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I think it depends on the taste IMO, prog house has the reverbs, echos and synths...
they can range from 125 to 130 BPM's
I consider deep house those sounds about 120-125 BPM's, slow yet funky..

This is Deep House:



This is Progressive:

More prosaically, Deep House refers to the groove, the rhythm, the feeling of being chilled, laidback, and smooth/grooved (aka smooved). That's why it's called Deep House. It's a house thing. It's chiefly exported from San Francisco and Chicago. Things that make it extra special that differentiate it from other forms of house (including "progressive"): real instruments. Saxophones, cellos, pianos. It is closer in relation to acid jazz and the swanky, soulful downtempo scene than it does with anything coming out of the asscrack of bloated brit former trance labels.

I like Nick Holder, Sunday Brunch, Miguel Migs, Kevin Yost, Blue Six, The Rurals, Mark Farina, Solar House, Demarkus Lewis, Dimitri from Paris, Fred Everything, Ian Pooley, Eddie Amador. The San Francisco scene has got to be the best Deep House scene in the world. So chill, so real, so right.

ech... Whiteroom

Ishkur, wouldn't that Adam White & Andy Moor track be more along the lines of Progressive Trance than of Progressive House? Or is the line between them too blurry any more to really differentiate?

I thought this track would be a better example of Progressive House than the one you chose above:






(Unless I'm mistaken and this actually isn't Progressive House).

Does it really matter.Its all TECHNO!

i predict 50 deep house threads by the end of the month.

Now im confused hehe

Most people do seem to think that Deep House is the form of house that has a lot of 'real' instrument useage and a definitive funky and soulful 'vibe'.
I would like to know if there is some sort of Deep House subgenre then, as I always thought these 2 tracks were actually deep house:

Jussi Pekka - Forced
Satoshi Fumi - Treasure

Are those 2 types of house actually Progressive House (or Deep Progressive House), and not as I understood it, actually Deep house?

Whenever im asked I say I like deep house. Thing is I only like the kind of deep house like the tunes I listed above, not the 'soulful' or 'singing' with 'real instrument useage' type of deep house that most people are associating with the genre.

There is where I am confused. As there seems to be a definate subgenre there for me of deep house. I just dont know what to call it, but obviously on a very informed forum like this one I should now at least be trying to find out what exactly it is called. To avoid the confusion.

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I believe both the tracks you listed above are actually Progressive House and not Deep House. Don't be fooled by what beatport tells the track is, as a lot of the time they are wrong.

There are some 'groovy' elements to both tracks, but neither of them are very Jazz influenced so my guess stays with Prog house.

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Originally posted by cmay119 I believe both the tracks you listed above are actually Progressive House and not Deep House. Don't be fooled by what beatport tells the track is, as a lot of the time they are wrong. There are some 'groovy' elements to both tracks, but neither of them are very Jazz influenced so my guess stays with Prog house.

Yeah, I think I'll actually label them as 'Deep Prog House' for my own personal benefit in my archives of tunes on the PC (and in my head). No such genre exists it seems but it will certainly help me when trying to find tunes on the PC with that feel of those tracks.

Genre and subgenre, quite confusing for a layman like me who just knows what 'sound' he likes but struggles to actually find the tunes of that style easily heh. Subgenres have their use when labelled correctly it seems, I only wish sites like Beatport would use them properly. Would make my life and countless others easier for finding tracks I think.

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Originally posted by cmay119 Ishkur, wouldn't that Adam White & Andy Moor track be more along the lines of Progressive Trance than of Progressive House?

Uhh...yeah, sure. The lines are really really blurry, it doesn't matter a whole lot anymore. That's why they just call it all "Prog" now, because it has merged.

I wasn't being terribly selective with my Prog choice, I just picked the first thing I could find on Youtube. Your example is decent, but if I could pick a signifying track, it would be Heller & Farley - Rising Sun (Bedrock mix). It doesn't get anymore prog than that.

Koldorn: No.

Here's a good way to differentiate the two:

Deep House is jazzy, soulful groovy stuff made by black people in Chicago and San Francisco.

Progressive House is drolling, monotonous stuff that's too stiff and unresponsive to be deep, soulful or funky, made by white people in Europe.

Once again:

Deep House:


Progressive:

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Originally posted by bobba lou i predict 50 deep house threads by the end of the month.

It does seem to be catching on... are people jumping off the minimal bandwagon and onto deep house?

sadly yes

I knew mnml wouldn't stay for long. Neither will deep house, or any other sub genre...

Except for Schranz!

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Originally posted by Ishkur Koldorn: No. Here's a good way to differentiate the two: Deep House is jazzy, soulful groovy stuff made by black people in Chicago and San Francisco. Once again: Deep House:

Isnt Pete Heller a white guy though?
Great tune though, man that brings back memories.

I understand what your saying though.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Uhh...yeah, sure. The lines are really really blurry, it doesn't matter a whole lot anymore. That's why they just call it all "Prog" now, because it has merged.

Not really. If anything, the advent of McProg (such as Whiteroom) has re-seperated prog house and trance so they sound distinctively seperate again. There were only really two times when prog trance and house sounded much the same. The first was about 1995, and the second was about 2001.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Not really. If anything, the advent of McProg (such as Whiteroom) has re-seperated prog house and trance so they sound distinctively seperate again. There were only really two times when prog trance and house sounded much the same. The first was about 1995, and the second was about 2001.

Why must you lie all the time?

Nobody listen to this guys, he's full of it.

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