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Posted by Omega_M on Aug-21-2007 16:52:

Iranian kid smoking opium

Who in their right minds would give this drug to a kid ? Seriously, these people are completely whacked out.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Aug-21-2007 16:54:

fuckin ravers

and he does it better than me


Posted by Zoso on Aug-21-2007 17:02:

Is this something considered "socially acceptable" there?


Posted by Orpheus Is Dead on Aug-21-2007 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
Is this something considered "socially acceptable" there?


yeah. This is old news...


Posted by bubble on Aug-21-2007 17:13:

well i'll be damned, they are becoming westernized.


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-21-2007 17:13:

quote:
Opium and heroin from Afghanistan, the world's biggest producer, as well as Pakistan flood across Iran's porous eastern borders.

Much of the world's opium seizures are made in Iran, where drugs cost only a fraction of their price in the West.

Officials acknowledge they only intercept a small proportion of the thousands of tonnes of drugs that pass through Iran each year.

The transit has created a domestic market. Officials say about two million in a nation of 66 million are addicted.

Hossein's wife said the poppy seed was a key element in the local culture.

"If someone comes to your home and you do not offer them a dish of opium on charcoal then they assume you are uncivilised," she said,

prompting Hossein to quickly offer to fire up a fresh batch.


Several others confirmed Hossein's views, even though addicts are generally reluctant to admit their habit.

White-bearded Mohammad Emamifar, in a tent in another part of Bam, said he did not use opium but said the problem was widespread.

"The drug culture is very bad," he said. "But really the government must set up clinics to help these people."


Posted by beefy k on Aug-21-2007 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
Is this something considered "socially acceptable" there?




NO. Not even close.

quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus Is Dead
yeah. This is old news...


Sure, amongst the homeless and the crackheads dwelling in the slums of Iran it is acceptable but not in mainstream society. Get your fucking facts straight and don't be spewing that vile shit on these boards.

Iran remains to be the most misunderstood place on Earth.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Aug-21-2007 17:21:

While we may not be as ghetto about it, I hate to tell you this, but the majority of us living in the first world from birth til the age of 18 are given opium products at some point. Perhaps sometimes products even stronger than "heroin".

By the way, the two major producers of pain relief for the human race are:

a pretty little flower

a wispy willow tree


Posted by Yan on Aug-21-2007 17:21:

quote:
Originally posted by beefy k
Iran remains to be the most misunderstood place on Earth.


quote:
Originally posted by beefy k
Get your fucking facts straight and don't be spewing that vile shit on these boards.


Well put.


Posted by Orpheus Is Dead on Aug-21-2007 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by beefy k


NO. Not even close.



Sure, amongst the homeless and the crackheads dwelling in the slums of Iran it is acceptable but not in mainstream society. Get your fucking facts straight and don't be spewing that vile shit on these boards.

Iran remains to be the most misunderstood place on Earth.


yeah... did you read all that from the internet or actually live somewhere in the mid east?


Posted by DJ Shibby on Aug-21-2007 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by beefy k


NO. Not even close.



Sure, amongst the homeless and the crackheads dwelling in the slums of Iran it is acceptable but not in mainstream society. Get your fucking facts straight and don't be spewing that vile shit on these boards.

Iran remains to be the most misunderstood place on Earth.


I fail to see how it would be unacceptable for the kid to smoke a pain reliever for medical reasons; if that's the only ghetto ass way they know to administer the drug, then who the fuck are we to act high and mighty because we do it with enclosed needle systems in "fancy" hospitals?

Give me a break.

If the kid's actually smoking to get high, then HOLY FUCK, what the hell?

Buy the kid a fucking nintendo for fucks sake.


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-21-2007 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
While we may not be as ghetto about it, I hate to tell you this, but the majority of us living in the first world from birth til the age of 18 are given opium products at some point. Perhaps sometimes products even stronger than "heroin".


But the kid is using it for recreational purposes. Not medicinal or therapeutic.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Aug-21-2007 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
""If someone comes to your home and you do not offer them a dish of opium on charcoal then they assume you are uncivilised," she said,

prompting Hossein to quickly offer to fire up a fresh batch. "


So you're saying that they offer each other opium the same way we might offer a visitor alcohol? Both of which I find to be equally damaging to a society.

Not to a 5 year old kid though, lol... seems sensationalist, youtube garbage.


Posted by beefy k on Aug-21-2007 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Orpheus Is Dead
yeah... did you read all that from the internet or actually live somewhere in the mid east?


I am Iranian. My family and ALL Iranian families that I know are so anti-drug that they would make the Evangelicals look like the fucking Osbournes.

Don't generalize like that.


Posted by Orpheus Is Dead on Aug-21-2007 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
But the kid is using it for recreational purposes. Not medicinal or therapeutic.


thats bad but it happens...I mean I'm in India and generally people don't smoke it here they eat it...but a lot of people come into the hospital due to opium stomach cancer...out in the agricultural areas people of low socioeconomic classes commonly do it..either that or ganja/bhung.


Posted by LoveHate on Aug-21-2007 17:33:

maybe hes not a kid at all...but a midget!



btw alcohol is banned in iran for all ages..so this might be why,


Posted by Frenchie on Aug-21-2007 17:33:

Handing over a little kid Opium..handing over a gun... hmmmm which does more damage.


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-21-2007 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
If the kid's actually smoking to get high, then HOLY FUCK, what the hell?


It is wrong because the kid is not aware of the dangers of smoking the drug. He can smoke opium as much as he wants and kill himself when he grows up. That would be his own choice.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Not to a 5 year old kid though, lol...


Exactly


Posted by beefy k on Aug-21-2007 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
I fail to see how it would be unacceptable for the kid to smoke a pain reliever for medical reasons; if that's the only ghetto ass way they know to administer the drug, then who the fuck are we to act high and mighty because we do it with enclosed needle systems in "fancy" hospitals?

Give me a break.

If the kid's actually smoking to get high, then HOLY FUCK, what the hell?

Buy the kid a fucking nintendo for fucks sake.


I can understand what the elder is saying in the video and it DEFINATELY isn't in the context of him administering it medically. Unfortunately this happens, but to narrow it down to being 'socially acceptable' in Iran is just false. Straight up.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-21-2007 17:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Perhaps sometimes products even stronger than "heroin".

Like fentanyl:

"* Alfentanil (trade name Alfenta), an ultra-short acting (5�10 minutes) analgesic,
* Sufentanil (trade name Sufenta), a potent analgesic (5 to 10 times more potent than fentanyl) for use in heart surgery.
* Remifentanil (trade name Ultiva), currently the shortest acting opioid, has the benefit of rapid offset, even after prolonged infusions.
* Carfentanil (trade name Wildnil) is an analogue of fentanyl with an analgesic potency 10,000 times that of morphine and is used in veterinary practice to immobilize certain large animals."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl

[Doses of fentanyl and its analogues are measured in micrograms; heroin is dosed by milligrams.]


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-21-2007 17:41:

Isn't Fentanyl a highly regulated drug ?


Posted by Omega_M on Aug-21-2007 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Handing over a little kid Opium..handing over a gun... hmmmm which does more damage.

that question is out of context.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-21-2007 17:42:

Yes, Schedule II in the U.S.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Aug-21-2007 17:42:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Like fentanyl:

"* Alfentanil (trade name Alfenta), an ultra-short acting (5�10 minutes) analgesic,
* Sufentanil (trade name Sufenta), a potent analgesic (5 to 10 times more potent than fentanyl) for use in heart surgery.
* Remifentanil (trade name Ultiva), currently the shortest acting opioid, has the benefit of rapid offset, even after prolonged infusions.
* Carfentanil (trade name Wildnil) is an analogue of fentanyl with an analgesic potency 10,000 times that of morphine and is used in veterinary practice to immobilize certain large animals."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl

[Doses of fentanyl and its analogues are measured in micrograms; heroin is dosed by milligrams.]



Props to you sir!

Education is the only solution, so I'm glad to see some of us are educated!


Posted by Orpheus Is Dead on Aug-21-2007 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by beefy k
I am Iranian. My family and ALL Iranian families that I know are so anti-drug that they would make the Evangelicals look like the fucking Osbournes.

Don't generalize like that.


Okay. So its not socially acceptible...But it happens...


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