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Posted by Scoops on Aug-21-2007 18:38:

Arrow Steve Lawler says.....

"If I were still playing that heavy tribal percussive sound, I wouldn't be DJing now. I'd be bored shitless." Steve Lawler.

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=838

nice read/interview


Posted by Johan (DJ Irish) on Aug-21-2007 19:00:

Nice to see a DJ speak his mind on things.


Posted by Gauss on Aug-21-2007 19:07:

Tribal percussive sound? I want to hear that.


Posted by nefardec on Aug-21-2007 19:55:

2000 essential mix
dark drums compilations


good stuff, but yeah it's over, good for him


Posted by julien2 on Aug-21-2007 20:16:

Although I dont particularly like the music he spins, Lawler smells trends and knew right away when it was time to leave tribal.

Tribal is good for about 5 minutes.


Posted by RJT on Aug-21-2007 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by julien2
Although I dont particularly like the music he spins, Lawler smells trends and knew right away when it was time to leave tribal.


This is more than likely the reason I've been bored to tears by just about every Lawler set I've ever heard, including live. He's a solid jock of all trades (or genres), but seemingly more often than not, a master of none.

He's a very competent DJ who at times has been brilliant, but just hasn't had any kind of staying power with me over time.


Posted by Pete K on Aug-22-2007 00:00:

RJT..not sure if you've checked out his 3 cd comp Viva...



great mix on all 3 days.


Posted by LoveHate on Aug-22-2007 00:03:

i rather hear sean tyas then steve lawler..


Posted by RJT on Aug-22-2007 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Pete K
RJT..not sure if you've checked out his 3 cd comp Viva...



great mix on all 3 days.


Hmmm, I have only heard his lights out compilations and live sets, can you point me to a link?


Posted by Clovis on Aug-22-2007 01:41:

quote:
Originally posted by LoveHate
i rather hear sean tyas then steve lawler..



Of course you would.


And lol, thank god lawler isn't playing any tribal, since nobody is making good tribal anymore.


Posted by RJT on Aug-22-2007 01:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis

And lol, thank god lawler isn't playing any tribal, since nobody is making good tribal anymore.


To be fair, there was never any "good" or "bad" tribal - it was all just mediocre and interesting for a minute while you were fooled into thinking it was cool.

Chus & Ceballos really hit the jackpot on that one for a minute there.


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-22-2007 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
To be fair, there was never any "good" or "bad" tribal - it was all just mediocre and interesting for a minute while you were fooled into thinking it was cool.

Chus & Ceballos really hit the jackpot on that one for a minute there.


You must have been looking in all the wrong places. There was plenty of good tribal from 3-4 years back, just like there's plenty of good electro-house from a year or two back...if you know where to look.


Posted by RJT on Aug-22-2007 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
You must have been looking in all the wrong places. There was plenty of good tribal from 3-4 years back, just like there's plenty of good electro-house from a year or two back...if you know where to look.


1. It was meant to be a bit of a tongue-in-cheek post

B. I think tribal is fucking boring. All of it. Even the stuff you think is good. Trust me. I've looked.

3. Never respond to statements of opinion with assertions of fact that can never be proven.


Posted by Clovis on Aug-22-2007 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
To be fair, there was never any "good" or "bad" tribal - it was all just mediocre and interesting for a minute while you were fooled into thinking it was cool.

Chus & Ceballos really hit the jackpot on that one for a minute there.



Dude, Lawler has a handfull of amazing tribal, all scattered about through his years of playing it. Last time I saw a really good set from him, he started off playing his newer sound and dropped a bunch of the older stuff much later into his set, mindblowing. Tracks like Indart - Remember The Past & that one from his metrodance set, dark, evil sounding stuff with great percussion.


Posted by RJT on Aug-22-2007 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Dude, Lawler has a handfull of amazing tribal, all scattered about through his years of playing it. Last time I saw a really good set from him, he started off playing his newer sound and dropped a bunch of the older stuff much later into his set, mindblowing. Tracks like Indart - Remember The Past & that one from his metrodance set, dark, evil sounding stuff with great percussion.


See previous post


Posted by Domesticated on Aug-22-2007 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
1. It was meant to be a bit of a tongue-in-cheek post

B. I think tribal is fucking boring. All of it. Even the stuff you think is good. Trust me. I've looked.

3. Never respond to statements of opinion with assertions of fact that can never be proven.



1. I know.

2. How do you even know what particular kind of music and/or artists I'm talking about?

3. Statements of opinion start with "I think that...", "It's is my view that..." or "In my opinion...", as opposed to:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
To be fair, there was never any "good" or "bad" tribal - it was all just mediocre and interesting for a minute while you were fooled into thinking it was cool.


No, my assertion of fact can never be proven, but neither can yours.


Posted by RJT on Aug-22-2007 01:59:

If you knew, why even reply in the first place?



And my opinion was implied by context.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-22-2007 02:09:

I really like a good tribal night out... it's a great workout We have a selection of top tribal jocks in MTL and a bunch of good internationals who pass through...


+ lawler is a douche


Posted by Bruce on Aug-22-2007 02:09:

RJT loved the way you tried to turn that all lovey dovey after you got served. You got caught out making one of your bullcrap statements - deal with it.


Posted by RJT on Aug-22-2007 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce
RJT loved the way you tried to turn that all lovey dovey after you got served. You got caught out making one of your bullcrap statements - deal with it.




Lol. please explain how I got "served" again?



And whose alt are you again?


Posted by Clovis on Aug-22-2007 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
See previous post



Well, as long as you feel you've looked far enough. But I try not to write off entire genres for good. I'll keep those old bombs to myself then


Posted by RJT on Aug-22-2007 02:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Well, as long as you feel you've looked far enough. But I try not to write off entire genres for good. I'll keep those old bombs to myself then


I never said I think tribal is bad, I just find it utterly fucking boring - the sets people have told me are "legendary tribal" are almost always good for the first 5 minutes, then nothing happens. Ever.

I can respect that other people like it, but it just doesn't do it for me.

And as opposed to drum & bass, which I pretty much have written off completely without even really giving a ton of it a chance, I tried, really, really, really hard to get into tribal. I mean really, really, really, unbelievably hard - and I just didn't get it.


Posted by Allied Nations on Aug-22-2007 02:30:

if you ever get your butt to MTL we're gonna give it another go



at stereo


Posted by RJT on Aug-22-2007 02:32:

I'm always willing to give more a shot, always - and with expectations low, it would be easy to impress.

Honestly though again, it's just one of those things where I feel like something isn't really good, but it's clearly not bad (unless subjective boredom makes something bad, but I'd like to think that it doesn't ).


Posted by Clovis on Aug-22-2007 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I never said I think tribal is bad, I just find it utterly fucking boring - the sets people have told me are "legendary tribal" are almost always good for the first 5 minutes, then nothing happens. Ever.

I can respect that other people like it, but it just doesn't do it for me.

And as opposed to drum & bass, which I pretty much have written off completely without even really giving a ton of it a chance, I tried, really, really, really hard to get into tribal. I mean really, really, really, unbelievably hard - and I just didn't get it.


I like playing everything, I think anyone who just plays tribal or just plays minimal is gonna be boring. So yeah, theres a few tribal tracks I really like that I can sometimes use, but I agree that most of lawler's pure tribal sets get boring, and sometimes he'll drop some pretty shit tribal (or with horrid vocals) in the middle of good tunes (I blame lack of good music or inability to diversify).

As for DNB, thats another discussion, but I do like the liquid stuff, my friend is heavy into it and produces, I'll try and send you some of the tracks I like to see if they do anything for you

I think the only genres I have pretty much consistently held a middle finger to are Gabber and Happy Hardcore. 99% of that shit is just really bad noise.


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