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Posted by jey on Aug-22-2007 12:36:

Midi Files....How To???

when i import a midi file into cubase and attempt to play a selected preset from a softsynth the preset jumps to a different one!

it doesnt do this everytime, just with certin midi's...

ive copied the midi notes to a new sequencer window and this solves the problem sometimes...

anyone know how to sort this or maby how to remove info attacthed to the midi files which may be conflicting????

thanks...


Posted by Storyteller on Aug-22-2007 12:39:

Re: Midi Files....How To???

quote:
Originally posted by jey
when i import a midi file into cubase and attempt to play a selected preset from a softsynth the preset jumps to a different one!

it doesnt do this everytime, just with certin midi's...

ive copied the midi notes to a new sequencer window and this solves the problem sometimes...

anyone know how to sort this or maby how to remove info attacthed to the midi files which may be conflicting????

thanks...


copy paste the notes to a new block.
the original block contains a preset change command which causes the vst to switch preset


Posted by jey on Aug-22-2007 12:42:

yes i said i done that and it solves the problem most times but not always!! cheers..


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-22-2007 13:26:

Storyteller is correct - copy and past the notes (not copy the block itself) in to a new block then delete the original block.

This used to drive me nuts when I tweaked presets (especially happened with the V-station) and saved them as new preset. I would press play and it would go back to the original preset! Sometimes I found only opening a new track (not the one that had midi file in the first place) and using my copied and pasted notes in a new midi block in that solved it.


Posted by BOOsTER on Aug-22-2007 13:56:

can't you just delete the "program change" command in cubase?


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-22-2007 14:34:

That's a good point, but I never figured (or bother to find out) how to.

Anyone know?


Posted by BOOsTER on Aug-22-2007 15:25:

in ableton you double-click the midi clip and you see three rolldown menus for program, bank...and something more...there must be something like that in cubase...

EDIT: I don't use cubase, but here's what I found on google:

quote:
Method 1 - Cubase SX2 MIDI EditorDouble-click on the Part to open the MIDI editorIn the Controller Lane (lowest pane, to the left), click on the drop-down menu � Program ChangeChange mouse-tool by selecting the Draw toolController Lane: Click at the time-point you want to change the patchProgram Change numbers appear under aforementioned drop-down menu - draw until correct number appearsAlternatively, once (something is) drawn: Select it, then change the instrument number on the Info Line (at the top, enable to view)

Method 2 - Cubase SX2 Project BrowserHit CTRL+B (Opens Project Browser)Left pane: Locate MIDI Track, clickety-click � Track Data � select target MIDI PartRight pane (top): Click the "Add" drop-down menu, select Program Change � "Add" buttonLocate new entry (same as current song position) � change "Data 1" column to patch number


Posted by yawarm on Aug-22-2007 16:15:

Hi, This is easy to fix but not entirely obvious.

If you select the list editor and just filter out all commands other than 'program change commands'. Once you do this you can delete the program change command(s) that is causing this.

Ill be home soon and I know that the filter pane is usually hidden behind a toggle switch so i can throw up a short tut on how to do this if need be.

Y


Posted by jey on Aug-22-2007 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Storyteller is correct - copy and past the notes (not copy the block itself) in to a new block then delete the original block.

This used to drive me nuts when I tweaked presets (especially happened with the V-station) and saved them as new preset. I would press play and it would go back to the original preset! Sometimes I found only opening a new track (not the one that had midi file in the first place) and using my copied and pasted notes in a new midi block in that solved it.


ive tried it both ways, copying the actual notes and the block but in some midis this doesnt solve it!


Posted by yawarm on Aug-22-2007 20:56:

Okay. Heres to my kind advice not being totally ignored!

In Cubase

1, Select the midi part
2, Midi > Open List Editor (From Toolbar)
3, On the Main toolbar switch the 'Show Filter View' on by pressing the toggle button once

This is the third button from the top left just under edit and to the right of 'acoustic feedback'.

4, Uncheck everything but 'Program Change' in the filterbar the displays

5, Delete the offending program change

Hope this helps!


Posted by jey on Aug-23-2007 08:51:

quote:
Originally posted by yawarm
Okay. Heres to my kind advice not being totally ignored!

In Cubase

1, Select the midi part
2, Midi > Open List Editor (From Toolbar)
3, On the Main toolbar switch the 'Show Filter View' on by pressing the toggle button once

This is the third button from the top left just under edit and to the right of 'acoustic feedback'.

4, Uncheck everything but 'Program Change' in the filterbar the displays

5, Delete the offending program change

Hope this helps!



lol didnt ignore ya mate, was waiting on ur post!

i will try this after work later.... thanks alot



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