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[Prog?] OrgaNik - Out Cold (Full 320)
Hi y'all.
I realized it's been quite a while since I posted anything here, so I decided to whip something up for you this afternoon 
Seriously, though - this is a track that started out as a simple performance test for my brand spanking new PC, but it turned out to be pretty good so I guess I can't damage my "reputation" by posting it here.
This is a proggy track that concentrates more on the atmospheric side of things rather than the melodies. Influenced quite heavily by mr. Oliver Lieb and his Paragliders guise in particular.
Here we go then:
OrgaNik - Out Cold (6:16, 320kbps, 14.3MB)
Enjoy.
Ok,
This is the first time I'm hearing something from you, and I'm expecting it to be a bit prog, but that question mark in your title is keeping my mind that much more open.
Like the pad that you open with, that goes all through the song, something mellow yet rich. Percussion elements are well included, and I particularly like the hat structures.
Leading on to the bass is just that small break and rev crash, which is much different from the mega breakdowns that are part of most of the music I listen to. Simple, yet effective.
The bassline goes well with the percs that come on a bit later, and I'm expecting the pad to kick in at some point to combine everything together. That small break with the reverse crash I mentioned, occurs 3 or 4 times in short succession...just a tad bit repetitive.
The part of the track I didnt like was when the pad played with one hat and one percussion, it was too 'dead' for me for want of a better word, but the lush pad that comes in after that makes up for that segment ably.
I m really not into such music, but I liked the simpleness and almost sereneness of this track. I would have loved the bass to change pitch at some point, but other than that and that small 'dead' period, I think this is topnotch. Production is also clean and crisp.
I cant say this will be on repeat or anything, but I liked it. A lot.
Thanks for the feedback. The repetitiveness is more or less intentional in this particular track since, as I said, it focuses more on the overall atmosphere.
This really isn't like anything like I've done before so it might not be the best "first track" to hear from me (then again my "sound" changes all the time anyway).
This has got me groovin'
I can't say there is really anything i think needs to be improved, but i do feel that its missing something. The melody can move a little more, maybe disjunct the melody at one point, add to the adventure. It probably doesn't have to be much.
it may be a perfect candidate for vocals, something that could help to carry the song.
if you would like, critique one of mine 
(i need it! check sig)
I really like the details that have gone into that clap. I think it feels a bit loud, though.
I'm feeling that deadness that smakmagic was talking about. There in the second minute, it just kind of dies. It picks up, but it had some trouble there for a while. It did do a good job of emphasizing the atmosphere there, though.
I could hear this opening up a really nice techno set. There's this incredible groove that is very understated, but still powerful. Good work.
I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean with "deadness". There's new stuff being introduced pretty much every 16/32 bars until the breakdown, it's just very elaborate as I wanted to have the overall feel kind of understated.
That being said, this is result of only one afternoon of work and I will be doing some minor alterations here and there as I think I could go quite far with this... Also, Mart's remixed this and I think I'll have a crack at doing a breaks version also.
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Influenced quite heavily by mr. Oliver Lieb and his Paragliders guise in particular. |
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| Originally posted by TOR I was expecting a much heavier kick after reading that, hehe. Much chunkier rhythms in general actually. You've got the synths nailed down perfectly, though. Definitely looking forward to the other versions. |
I read the comments about 'deadness' prior to listening and I can't say that I noticed it. I'll shove my remix up here once I come up with a new alias. 2009, then.
Really nice, chilled, understated prog. Some transitions were a little abrupt but on the whole the piece gels together really seamlessly and as you said you've only just begun on the track. I love the fact that you've come up with a really unique main sound, it works well and isn't boring. Not a big fan of the clap, it sounded a little dry and harsh for me. Overall a top tune!
Very nice track with some nice atmosphere. This is not my favorite from you, but it is nice in its own right, and is definitely different. Pad sounds great, and I liked a lot of the percs... though I agree that the clap was a little...loud...or something. Not quite sure. The kick seems weak, but I am listening on the crappiest headphones possible right now, so that could be my own fault. I need to give this a proper listen at home.
I understand that this is supposed to be a bit "understated" type of prog, but it didn't reach out and grab me as I still probably expected it to. I could see myself opening a set with it, though.
The breaks remix seems like a great idea, but that might be due to the fact that I've loved everything you've ever touched that had a breakbeat. Looking forward to it.
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery |
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This is a proggy track that concentrates more on the atmospheric side of things rather than the melodies. Influenced quite heavily by mr. Oliver Lieb and his Paragliders guise in particular. |
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Actually, I'm not even going to go there. Let me just say that the track isn't about to change bar some minor adjustments and mastering (it hasn't actually been mastered at all).
Palm - I could very well be up for that, though I must admit I'm not extremely familiar with your work. We'll talk business when I have a bit more time 
Hey man, I just had a glance through the rest of the thread and the other comments echoed my thoughts more or less.
The clap is nice, but its a little loud, theres a second clap or snap or something which just glares out a bit, and I think its this thats bothering me mostly. Something in the verb maybe? Its prominent at about 1:30 anyway...
The opening pads are really nice, and the entire song is extremely understated, almost jazzy feeling - as was already mentioned. This is definately a good thing and the song certainly has a certain place in a set. But its not a dancfloor rocker where the crowd will have their glowsticks out!
The bassline sits in a really nice place too, even if it is generic, I think its so well done you can get away with it.
All in all a very nice atmospheric track, I really like it, it doesn't neccesarily need anymore work I don't think. I should say that its not really my style, but its still very well executed and it definately has its place.
A very classy bassline. That intro sample/pad is very dreamy. I want to touch it, but I can't.
There's some interesting wumpy-ness going on behind the bassline, about a third of the way in. Your kick and bass are well mixed, and getting along nicely.
Ah. There's that subbass kick thing i was hearing earlier. Nice distorted pad. Almost sounds like something in Albino 3, like... boosting the filter saturation.
This is definately proggy. But good. Lots of "modern" prog (that doesn't make sense by the way) tries to do too much. Have you noticed that? Doing everything it can to be super fancy and filled with crazy FX with no love for just a good groove.
This however does have a good groove.
Again, some good sounding stuff Mr. Mystery, and also again, thank you for taking a listen to my recent little adventure into something that isn't psy.
----Adam 
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| Originally posted by DJFreaq Have you noticed that? |
Although this is really not the type of thing I would normally listen to, I thought it was a decent track. Some interesting instruments kept it alive for me.
Considering this started out as a cpu test I think it's really cool.
K
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery This is a proggy track that concentrates more on the atmospheric side of things rather than the melodies. Influenced quite heavily by mr. Oliver Lieb and his Paragliders guise in particular. |
I'd definitely play this - love the subtlety. This is an understated track without sounding unfinished, which is a difficult but sublime balance. It's something I certainly wish I could pull off.
My only criticism is that the pad could be more continuous. I know it was a deliberate thing to repeat it every 8 beats but I think it would be more effective as an atmospheric track with a 32 beat looping pad rather than an 8 beat. I also realize you aren't going to give this a second thought, but what the hell.
If you are going to do it as an 8 beat pattern, my suggestion would be a bit more transformation in the sound over its 8 bar life, maybe like a collapse and expansion of the sound around the loop point, an inhaling/exhaling, as opposed to a simple 'replay'. I hear the beginnings of exactly what I am talking about but it doesn't seem to push the idea to the point where it's legible.
edit: also, I actually think the "cold" reverberant synth in the middle of the track could be a bit less understated in terms of scoring. Maybe just the downward interval every 32 beats for a while before it starts modulating on a more active pattern. I think this actually weakens it a bit.
The oliver lieb influence is apparent and lovely. It also reminds me of a faster neurotron.
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| Originally posted by nefardec edit: also, I actually think the "cold" reverberant synth in the middle of the track could be a bit less understated in terms of scoring. Maybe just the downward interval every 32 beats for a while before it starts modulating on a more active pattern. I think this actually weakens it a bit. |
No offense to some of the posts here but I get the impression they're 'wanting' something different out of what you intended, comments trying to pull it in the direction of something they find more favourable.
For me, it's great - more intricate details are needed though, subtle blending, movement. My take on this track is that it needs to keep the listener interested not in a 'hey, check out this change' sense but in more constant sense of tamed and eased development.
The strong prominent bassline is great, I feel it makes the track in many ways....the track doesn't lose itself to 'sameness' with other prog-like tracks. It's just the slightly bit too 'raw', could do with being dulled that slight bit, contained if you like.
The distorted pad, for me, needs to be slightly more wispy...immersed in the track - there's a rawness about it, I used the word 'contained' before and that might perhaps be what I'd like to see again.
All my opinion though and in fairness you have mentioned it was just an afternoon's work. I don't listen to so much music these days, I've found the world of electronic music to be bland and sterile. This track, however, I did find myself enjoying - even in it's relatively rudimentary state (I hope!). Thanks for sharing it.
I shouldn't had even mentioned the amount of time I spent on this as everyone seems to get hung up on it.
this is exactly the kind of prog i like to play towards the start of my sets. sounds like something subtraxx would put out
it's simple, kind of a setfiller more than anything.. so can't really see the need to disect it up a huge amount for the sake of feedback. i'll just say that it works, and that i'd be interested in hearing any future material along these lines
TBH I don't think I'll be wasting much more time with this, I'll just jump straight on to the next one.
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