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Positioning speakers?

i have a problem deciding where to put my speakers in my room to get the best perspective while im mixing. i have looked through alot of the pictures of other peoples setups and there seems to be alot of diversity.

I was just wondering if there is as standard 'rule of thumb' when it comes to positioning your speakers

I have my decks on a table with my mixer in the middle

Re: Positioning speakers?

You mean for monitors I assume?

The most important thing for me is that they be up around ear height, and fairly close.

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Originally posted by cookiekn i have a problem deciding where to put my speakers in my room to get the best perspective while im mixing. i have looked through alot of the pictures of other peoples setups and there seems to be alot of diversity. I was just wondering if there is as standard 'rule of thumb' when it comes to positioning your speakers I have my decks on a table with my mixer in the middle

I don't think positioning for DJing is that crucial. It is for production but for DJing you don't need to hear everything perfectly.

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Originally posted by Fledz I don't think positioning for DJing is that crucial. It is for production but for DJing you don't need to hear everything perfectly.

completely true...ofcourse if you have a pair of near-field studio monitors than you might as well position them correctly regardless of using them for DJ'ing or Production, as any other position will be a complete waste of their design (hence the sweet spot).

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Originally posted by Fledz I don't think positioning for DJing is that crucial. It is for production but for DJing you don't need to hear everything perfectly.

Yeah, for the purposes of home DJing it's not that big of a deal. When you start playing in clubs, you'll want a decent set of speakers poitioned like studio monitors would be so you can clearly hear what you are mixing over what is being played out the loudspeakers. But for now, just have fun with it.

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Originally posted by DJChrisB Yeah, for the purposes of home DJing it's not that big of a deal. When you start playing in clubs, you'll want a decent set of speakers poitioned like studio monitors would be so you can clearly hear what you are mixing over what is being played out the loudspeakers. But for now, just have fun with it.

Oh no doubt about it at all. The better the positioning is then I'm sure it's better for the DJ, but what I'm saying is don't get too stressed about it. Positioning isn't crucial for a home setup

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Originally posted by Fledz Oh no doubt about it at all. The better the positioning is then I'm sure it's better for the DJ, but what I'm saying is don't get too stressed about it. Positioning isn't crucial for a home setup

Agreed

Positioning

Positioning may not be crutial, but it is a way to offer a significant inprovment in sound for no or little cost. You can change the sound dramatically just with placment. Experiment and see what sounds best in your room. Most recomend an equalateral triangle with the tweeters at ear level for nearfield monitoring.

allen

Mine are at head height, pointing towards me inwardly, about 1.5 - 2 feet away from me, and BEHIND me.

I chose this position for them because I didn't like it when they were facing me because the sound bounced off the wall behind me, and I felt that created inaccuracies in my mixing.

Of course if you are mixing in a club or at some other venue you cannot aford to be fussy, but since I have no intention of ever doing so this is not a factor to me.....

Jarv

It's only a home set up, but monitors behind you are a bad idea (apart from necessary in 5.1 etc). The ear is minutely designed to focus sounds from in front better than from behind.

Much as I hate quoting the wiki...

OUTER EAR

You will not hear frequencies properly from behind (caused by arrival time delays, phase cancellation etc.), but as I said for a home set up does it matter?

Also, 1.5 foot seems very close especially if you ever play at high volumes.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN It's only a home set up, but monitors behind you are a bad idea (apart from necessary in 5.1 etc). The ear is minutely designed to focus sounds from in front better than from behind. Much as I hate quoting the wiki... OUTER EAR You will not hear frequencies properly from behind (caused by arrival time delays, phase cancellation etc.), but as I said for a home set up does it matter? Also, 1.5 foot seems very close especially if you ever play at high volumes.

so what do you reckon then mate? what would be classed as ideal?

i've been working on my studio for production but I can impart:

-position speakers within 2 feet of your head... you should face them
-speakers shouldn't be more than 2 feet away from your walls! 1-2 feet is optimal

thats for production in mind, with dj'in all you really need is to be able to feel it

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Originally posted by necodo i've been working on my studio for production but I can impart: -position speakers within 2 feet of your head... you should face them -speakers shouldn't be more than 2 feet away from your walls! 1-2 feet is optimal thats for production in mind, with dj'in all you really need is to be able to feel it

You're kidding right?

There's not set rule in feet as to how far you should position your speakers (apart from vague guidelines for near and far field monitors), but it is generally best to position your speakers in an equilateral triangle, so they each speaker is as far away from you as they are from each other. So if your speaker are say 3 foot apart, you position should be three feet from both speakers, and they should be "turned in" to point at you. This is really applied to studio monitoring, but seeing as you want to hear the track as close to it's true reproduction as possible, why not apply it to Dj monitoring, that way you will hear the tracks clearly during a mix.

I'm not going to go in why you need to this, or how far from the rear or side walls you need to place them as this is really acoustics 101, and any link you click on from googling "Speaker Placement" or rudimentary audio engineering book will give you all the answers you need.

I suppose it does depends on your speakers.

If you are talking your average sized speaker then go with Ranns suggestion. It's the equalateral triangle that is needed to get the sweet spot.

If you have bass bins more like the ones you get in clubs then don't put those up high, just a waste of time.

Just do a search on the sweet spot and disregard all the porn sites you will get and look for the studio related sites.

It's not a bad idea actually because you will be able to hear the EQ changes that you do in the clearest way possible. Once you get to a club system though depending on quality of mixer or sound system, sometimes you wont even notice adjustments in EQ. But it's always good to have a rough idea of how you sound.

Cheers
Nem

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