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Posted by narcism on Sep-02-2007 04:44:

Remixes/Remakes

yay or nay??

so there has been a shit load of remikes/remakes of older "anthems" of late and i dont think its going to slow down anytime soon, so do you like them?

eg:
richard durand- born slippy 2007
vincent de moor- fly away (2007 remixes)
Wink- Higher State of Consciousness(2007)
Bedrock - Heaven Scent (Greg Downey Remix)


Posted by 00soups00 on Sep-02-2007 04:54:

as a general rule i think they should be left alone. Some remakes have been pretty good, but as a general rule they suck ass.


Posted by Lilith on Sep-02-2007 04:55:

I've not heard any lately I liked, so I'm generally of the opinion, quit doing it


Posted by Omega_M on Sep-02-2007 04:59:

Re: Remixes/Remakes

quote:
Originally posted by narcism
Wink- Higher State of Consciousness(2007)


I approve


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-02-2007 04:59:

the only reason tyas is ok is he has chosen a lot of good songs to remix. i dont think he adds anything special to them.

not sure ive heard any on that list, unless armin or bexta played the greg downey remix. i think classics are classics for a reason, and its pretty hard to add anything to them and make them better.


Posted by narcism on Sep-02-2007 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i dont think he adds anything special to them.



what if he brings the tune to the newer generations of music lovers, is that not a good thing.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-02-2007 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by narcism
what if he brings the tune to the newer generations of music lovers, is that not a good thing.


i dont judge music like that. i just judge it by whether i like it or not.


Posted by Aesthetic on Sep-02-2007 05:52:

yeah i agree.. if he wanted to present it to new music lovers whats to stop them playing the originals.. its not like the kids can't handle the oldschool tunes in their original form, they arent from the 50's ffs.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Sep-02-2007 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i dont judge music like that. i just judge it by whether i like it or not.

If they bring a new production technique or style to the tune fair enough. However if it's just a remake of an old song because if it has the bigname Djs label on it it must be good philosophy then that's bad.


Posted by EgosXII on Sep-02-2007 07:22:

Re: Remixes/Remakes

quote:
Originally posted by narcism
vincent de moor- fly away (2007 remixes)


cosmic gate did a pretty mad job i reckon: mad choon

i reckon remixes are alright if they sound good: it's not like a remix/remake replaces the original: you like the original, just keep listening to it

I think remixes can be pretty sweet sometimes... but then, i havn't had much sleep


Posted by Fpcookie on Sep-02-2007 13:13:

i think most of the time they are done by producers to put "their touch" on tunes so that they fit into their sets and their style better.

for example tyas playing the original children in a set wouldnt really sound right but his remix sounds alright.

when remixes are done in that regard im fine with it but when they are done with minimal changes to the track and are just used to gain exposure for the remixer its pretty crap


Posted by Marc Summers on Sep-02-2007 14:16:

i'm going to say no


Posted by ONION on Sep-02-2007 19:10:

Depends... Tracks like Energy52 - Cafe Del Mar have been remixed a few too many times. Theres only ONE mix ive heard that comes close to the quality of the original [aka kid pauls mix] and thats Michael Woods Ambient mix. Even the Oliver Lieb mix is terrible, and everyone knows how much I rate him.

Having said that Liebs mix of Universal Nation, made the original sound ordinary in comparison. TILTS remix of Children is another one that did the same. Thats what good remixers do.

It doesnt matter whether its a remix done 2 years after the original or 10 years, it should sound better or at the very least, it should give you a different feeling from the track.


Posted by narcism on Sep-03-2007 08:16:

marcus schossow's remix of carte blanche


Posted by gumble on Sep-03-2007 08:31:

meh, its all trying to polish a turd isnt it?

its the same thing with covers: if you are trying to imitate the original artist, you are essentially doing nothing. its about your own interpretation. a cover should be how you feel the song should go, you might feel it needs a different tempo, a restructured chorus etc or different timing. it shouldnt be just a rehashed imitation. or in trance terms, a different bass and kick and a few more cheesey synths. an ambient mix of cafe del mar is a good example of a good remix. those born slippy ones are examples of bad.


Posted by JayseP on Sep-03-2007 09:14:

we need shit remixes, without em we wouldn't truly appreciate the good ones


Posted by Philby on Sep-05-2007 12:13:

clearly nay. you can delete the other options


Posted by narcism on Sep-05-2007 12:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
clearly nay. you can delete the other options


Mahadeva


Posted by Philby on Sep-05-2007 13:45:

quote:
Originally posted by narcism
Mahadeva


your point being?

making a trance remix of a goa song from 10 years ago is slightly different to making a trance remix of a trance song from 2 years ago. i dont like them on principle. there are some remixes of old tunes that sound good. but most of them dont add anything. i think the greg downey remix is a good example, as is the oakenfold remix of born slippy. why put that energy into making a tune like that and then just copy and paste the old breakdown into it? why not just make a new tune? far out.


Posted by Light The Fuse on Sep-05-2007 14:52:

millions of em around at the moment:-

higher state of conciousness
dont you want me
show me love
back once again

to name just a few.
funny - really not a massive fan of vocals, but hunting around - the oldies still have the best vocals around.


Posted by JayseP on Sep-05-2007 21:04:

i heart sander van doorn
king of my castle, dance for life, sun goes down, control freak all shit tunes (sgd may be the exception dunno it) that he's turned into monsters. durand's around the world.. shit to monster

now that's how you remix


Posted by narcism on Sep-25-2007 09:01:

heres another list.....seems to be the new trend i think

Mellomaniacs - Solarcoaster (DJ Shah Remix)
Vincent de Moor - Fly Away (Sean Tyas Remix)
Perpetuous Dreamer - The Sound of Goodbye (Nic Chagall Drumbeat Edit)
Warrior - If You Want Me (Paul Webster Remix)
Three Drives - Greece 2000 (Marcel Woods Remix)


Posted by JayseP on Sep-25-2007 10:10:

Pharmacy loved Greece, sounded ace in there.

Digweed - Warung Beach is a sick tune. Mashtronic's White Sands Remix is whole other sick tune too. It's a stunning example of a well done remix, it's same, same but different


Posted by Aesthetic on Sep-25-2007 10:12:

the best ever remix of greece2000 was the man with no name remix and im desperately trying to get my greasy mits on it.


Posted by narcism on Sep-25-2007 10:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Aesthetic
the best ever remix of greece2000 was the man with no name remix and im desperately trying to get my greasy mits on it.


i agree


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