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Posted by ninetyninej on Sep-03-2007 22:54:

BlackBerry feedback...

My PDA phone has been dropped for the last time and I have to purchase a new one this week. I want the iPhone but despite my boss owning one and raving about it, I can't afford paying $600 for it.

So, I'm either buying the BlackBerry Curve or BlackBerry 8800. Anyone own either of these or have feedback/suggestions?

Curve:

http://reviews.cnet.com/smart-phone...tml?tag=ss_rltd

8800:

http://reviews.cnet.com/smart-phone...tml?tag=ss_rltd

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!


Posted by AMG8 on Sep-03-2007 23:49:

If you want somehting for buisness do not get the Iphone. the key board on that is absolute crap.

I think the only differnce between the Curve and the 8800 is the curve has a camera.

Either way Blackberry is the way to go.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Sep-04-2007 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by L2N
If you want somehting for buisness do not get the Iphone. the key board on that is absolute crap.

I think the only differnce between the Curve and the 8800 is the curve has a camera.

Either way Blackberry is the way to go.


isn't RIM(makers of blackberry) in some huge copyright lawsuit right now which could potentially ruin/discontinue the product? isn't that why their stock dropped so much in the last year


Posted by djjewelz on Sep-04-2007 00:47:

RIM settled last year with NTP, so they are all set.

8800 - GPS
8300 (Curve) - no GPS, but 2MP camera and standard headset jack
8820 - GPS + Wifi, coming out 9/15, same form factor as 8800

I prefer the Curve over the 8800 due to the layout of the keyboard. The 8800 is a good choice if you work in places that don't allow cameras into the facility.

Hope that helps.


Posted by ninetyninej on Sep-04-2007 00:47:

quote:
Originally posted by L2N
If you want somehting for buisness do not get the Iphone. the key board on that is absolute crap.

I think the only differnce between the Curve and the 8800 is the curve has a camera.

Either way Blackberry is the way to go.


Thanks for the feedback. I think I'm definitely going to go with BlackBerry Curve.

The 8800 has a built-in GPS and a slightly better battery but overall the Curve I've read is much much better, especially with the keyboard. Also I tried the keyboard on my boss' iPhone and found that typing emails took longer then an external qwerty keyboard like on the BlackBerry.




quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
isn't RIM(makers of blackberry) in some huge copyright lawsuit right now which could potentially ruin/discontinue the product? isn't that why their stock dropped so much in the last year


I read up on that and apparently that was 2006 and although it held up RIM production I believe they settled and are functioning just fine. The Curve in fact was just released like 2-3 months ago.



quote:
Originally posted by djjewelz
RIM settled last year with NTP, so they are all set.

8800 - GPS
8300 (Curve) - no GPS, but 2MP camera and standard headset jack
8820 - GPS + Wifi, coming out 9/15, same form factor as 8800

I prefer the Curve over the 8800 due to the layout of the keyboard. The 8800 is a good choice if you work in places that don't allow cameras into the facility.

Hope that helps.


Thanks a lot. This really helps my decision. I think the Curve is the way to go. And even though I'm locked in a contract I can get the Curve for $299 with my company's AT&T business account.


Posted by Orbital32 on Sep-04-2007 00:54:

I hate the curve. Too small to type with Suretype. I had that thing for literally an hour before i got rid of it. I never hated a phone as much as that one in my life. I would probably wait for the 8820.


Posted by skell on Sep-04-2007 01:00:

8800 all the way!

I was at a conference last week and RIM was there. Wait til you see what they have in store for the next year or so.

New BES pwnz0rs btw.


Posted by ninetyninej on Sep-04-2007 04:06:

shit, so hard to choose between curve vs 8800!

i did like the 8800 at first but then when i heard the buttons were too close to each other, making it hard to type, and that it had no camera i assumed the Curve was an easy choice




Damn, after some research I see the Curve 8310 coming to AT&T in 3 weeks and the 8820 coming out shortly after.

Fuck I need find a way to wait till the end of September before buying......


Posted by djjewelz on Sep-04-2007 05:26:

I have a spare 8800 if you really need something to hold you over.


Posted by HotDogWater on Sep-04-2007 06:07:

what provider do you have? i don't know about the others, but i know for sprint if you get the blackberry they tack another $30-40 extra monthly for a "blackberry plan." Also, don't you need a monthly gps subscription to use the built-in gps? if that's the case you may want to look for a bluetooth receiver, those can be had for $60-70+


Posted by Orbital32 on Sep-04-2007 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by HotDogWater
what provider do you have? i don't know about the others, but i know for sprint if you get the blackberry they tack another $30-40 extra monthly for a "blackberry plan." Also, don't you need a monthly gps subscription to use the built-in gps? if that's the case you may want to look for a bluetooth receiver, those can be had for $60-70+



the monthly subscription is with all providers. without it you blackberry is just a phone.


Posted by Orbital32 on Sep-04-2007 14:11:

quote:
Originally posted by ninetyninej
shit, so hard to choose between curve vs 8800!

i did like the 8800 at first but then when i heard the buttons were too close to each other, making it hard to type, and that it had no camera i assumed the Curve was an easy choice



If you think the buttons on the 8800 are too close together... its about 10X worse on the curve. And the "Learning" for spelling blows chunks.


Posted by BLOWZO on Sep-04-2007 14:20:

it's funny that you are looking at these phones. I am also looking... and this is what I came across.

Look into the HTC phones...


HTC Excalibur / Dash / S620
reviews = http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/us....php?phone=1041

HTC / Touch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2q-MaHMWs

HTC Mogul
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/htc_6800/

note: the curv is the widest you can go and still feel comfortable for one handed texting.


Posted by ninetyninej on Sep-04-2007 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by BLOWZO
it's funny that you are looking at these phones. I am also looking... and this is what I came across.

Look into the HTC phones...


HTC Excalibur / Dash / S620
reviews = http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/us....php?phone=1041

HTC / Touch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2q-MaHMWs

HTC Mogul
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/htc_6800/

note: the curv is the widest you can go and still feel comfortable for one handed texting.


Yeah, the phone that just died is the HTC 8125 and I was thinking of maybe upgrading to the HTC 8525 because they made some improvements.




But it was $50-100 more than the 2 BlackBerrys I was looking at so thats why I'm unsure which direction to go.


Posted by djjewelz on Sep-04-2007 17:58:

The 8525 is currently 199.99, but headed into End of Life status. Soon to be replaced by the 8925

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...aiser-unboxing/

which I think will actually be a great phone.


Posted by ninetyninej on Sep-04-2007 18:10:

quote:
Originally posted by djjewelz
The 8525 is currently 199.99, but headed into End of Life status. Soon to be replaced by the 8925

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...aiser-unboxing/

which I think will actually be a great phone.


wow this looks phenomenal ... found this link with like 60 pics for this phone:

http://www.modaco.com/ATandT-89xx-T...sh-t258197.html


Posted by BLOWZO on Sep-04-2007 19:17:

the smart phones now only had (at best) 128 meg for it's processor, and I think that the new one has over 400. Thus making it a million times better


Posted by BLOWZO on Sep-04-2007 19:23:

in other news... why the heck are the smart phones not doing what the Ocean does yet? The only reason I do not buy a smaret phone is because of the tough dial/text messageing on the phone while driving... The Ocean fixes this, however it is only for the worlds worst network.


Posted by ninetyninej on Sep-04-2007 20:12:

maybe i should say fuck it and get the best phone out there, the iphone.

the keyboard may not be as fast as an external one but thats fine with me, getting over the price will be the hard part.



the iphone nano looks interesting but may be too small and i dont want to wait months for it either...



http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/09/...estined-for-q4/


Posted by Orbital32 on Sep-04-2007 21:03:

I event though its only on CDMA, I LOVE MY ENV!


Posted by djjewelz on Sep-04-2007 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by BLOWZO
in other news... why the heck are the smart phones not doing what the Ocean does yet? The only reason I do not buy a smaret phone is because of the tough dial/text messageing on the phone while driving... The Ocean fixes this, however it is only for the worlds worst network.



We're releasing the Pantech Duo this month that is a dual slider like the Ocean.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...180-says-hello/

Best price will be 249.99.

As for the iPhone, I would only consider it if you meet the following conditions:

1. You primarily read email and do not respond. The keyboard is great for short messages and responses, but anything past sentence or two and it will drive you crazy.
2. You are not currently hooked up an enterprise mail system (direct push/good)

The iPhone cannot be

a. put on a business account (aka: if the account is under a CRU FAN). You need to put it onto an individual account.
b. hooked into exchange (most IT setups aren't going to allow the IMAP4/POP setup that iPhone currently has).

B. may change tomorrow pending what Steve Jobs announces. The rumor out there is that Apple has accessed Microsoft ActiveSync, so with a software update on the iPhone, it may be able to do true Direct Push.


Posted by ninetyninej on Sep-04-2007 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by djjewelz

The iPhone cannot be

a. put on a business account (aka: if the account is under a CRU FAN). You need to put it onto an individual account.


That sucks. I'm on a FAN business account with AT&T.

Well the iPhone is a little too pricey anyways so I'm either getting a Curve or 8820.

The AT&T HTC 8925 looks amazing but no one has a concrete release date and I can't wait more than or week or so longer:


Posted by koroma on Sep-05-2007 01:31:

well i tell you im on my second HTC phone (currently have a S710 on AT&T)
and i love it.. i suggest go for it!

the 400mhz processor of the latest models does look promising, however that processing power will rob your battery life.. in one way or another..

with my s710 i can play bubble breaker, send text and receive them. all while listening to mix sets without any major loss of performance..

as i mentioned before.. go 4 it and for get about blackberry..

unless you want to wait for the the curve2 to come out.. even then i still say forget about it.

http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm


quote:
Originally posted by ninetyninej
That sucks. I'm on a FAN business account with AT&T.

Well the iPhone is a little too pricey anyways so I'm either getting a Curve or 8820.

The AT&T HTC 8925 looks amazing but no one has a concrete release date and I can't wait more than or week or so longer:


Posted by ninetyninej on Sep-05-2007 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by koroma
well i tell you im on my second HTC phone (currently have a S710 on AT&T)
and i love it.. i suggest go for it!

the 400mhz processor of the latest models does look promising, however that processing power will rob your battery life.. in one way or another..

with my s710 i can play bubble breaker, send text and receive them. all while listening to mix sets without any major loss of performance..

as i mentioned before.. go 4 it and for get about blackberry..

unless you want to wait for the the curve2 to come out.. even then i still say forget about it.

http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm


yeah i have to agree about passing on the blackberrys....i stopped by an ATT store and tried them out and the buttons on the Curve and 8800 were way to small...i prefer the HTC keyboards.

looks like ill grab the S710 since the 8925 doesnt come out for another month or so


Posted by koroma on Sep-05-2007 03:01:

quote:
i prefer the HTC keyboards.
looks like ill grab the S710 since the 8925 doesn't come out for another month or so


if you really want to wait for the 8925 by all means please do. One thing I've noticed is you've got to be comfortable with your purchase, especially since HTC phones are expensive.

I debated for months about it getting rid of my Sony Ericsson P910 and getting the HTC S710. I'm glad I made the switch.

Before the Sony Ericsson I had 8125 from HTC. I absolutely love the phone for exception of the Mobile Windows 5 professional platform really sucked.

I tell myself that I was going to wait until mobile Windows 6 Standard Edition came out based off of these criteria.

I knew I'd no longer needed to have the ability to create and edit MS document; Unless you really do need to create documents on the go.

Perhaps i should be doing this on my laptop and not my PDA which is the whole point of mobile windows professional 5 and mobile windows professional 6.

I decide to go for the HTC S710 because it came with mobile windows six standard which does actually allow me to view and edit Microsoft Word Excel PowerPoint and Adobe PDF's. As well as basic editing of these files.

The Standard Edition is much more straight forward than the professional edition there is less steps taken to do the same tasks.

also mobile window six standard is not a touch screen format. I realize that I spent more time searching for what I wanted because I was forced to use the stylus versus the directional keypad which the S710 has..
mobile window six standards is much more intuitive than professional 5. However if you really do need to have the ability to create and edit documents in your PDA phone then by all means hold out for the 8925.

But I have to sayyour choice to go with a HTC phones, great!!!! if I can figure out how to buy stock in this company I would!


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