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Is This Where PVD and Ferry Corsten Are Headed?

Okay, so we know Paul Van Dyk released a very commercial record called "White Lies", and that Ferry is currently charting pretty high on the Pop charts in Holland with "The Race" (which resembles "Zombie Nation"). Let's hope their current musical evolution doesn't lead them to this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PdLaFJo4...related&search=

thats a banging track. and that guy with the flag under his eye..what a baller

but really i mean its just there songs from there albums that are popular. There live sets are still good..I mean PVD sets from 5 years ago sound the same as now but just different tracks and such.

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Originally posted by Oreoh142 thats a banging track. and that guy with the flag under his eye..what a baller but really i mean its just there songs from there albums that are popular. There live sets are still good..I mean PVD sets from 5 years ago sound the same as now but just different tracks and such.

Paul Van Dyk would never have played Anthem five years ago, and especially not as a closing track.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Paul Van Dyk would never have played Anthem five years ago, and especially not as a closing track.

Yeah, 'cause five years ago Anthem didn't exist! Duh.

according to an interview in bulgaria in late 2006, PvD doesn't like the "cheesy nonsenz". :P

I love Paul as a DJ and producer, but he can be a hypocrite at times. He used to talk negatively about ATB andhow he doesnt play that kind of music, whereas nowadays he will not only play, but also produce that kind of music.
Truthfully, much of ATB's music has been on par or even better then some of Paul's releases.

ahhh...fuck em all! somebody will come up with something decent anyways

love white lies

... that track/video was awesome!

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Originally posted by CHRles I love Paul as a DJ and producer, but he can be a hypocrite at times. He used to talk negatively about ATB andhow he doesnt play that kind of music, whereas nowadays he will not only play, but also produce that kind of music. Truthfully, much of ATB's music has been on par or even better then some of Paul's releases.

exactly. if someone had told me 5-6 years ago that PvD in the near future would produce poppish crap I would have laughed. Today I don't laugh. I just sadly watch how an icon within trance music destroyed his own image.

Re: Is This Where PVD and Ferry Corsten Are Headed?

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Originally posted by CHRles http://youtube.com/watch?v=PdLaFJo4...related&search=

my god.. i sure hope 2008 will be a year that's whistle-free.

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Originally posted by Oreoh142 There live sets are still good..I mean PVD sets from 5 years ago sound the same as now but just different tracks and such.

you deffinately don't know what you're talking about, I saw pvd last month and although it wasn't a bad set (excluding the stupid anthem and the cheese stack for the guidos) it deffinately doesn't even come close to the damage he did 4-7 years ago.

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Originally posted by idoru Yeah, 'cause five years ago Anthem didn't exist! Duh.

lol

Holy shit! That song is almost as bad as late 90's russian eurotrance-pop

Just take a look at this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MjKx12BBVu0

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Originally posted by wotyzoid you deffinately don't know what you're talking about, I saw pvd last month and although it wasn't a bad set (excluding the stupid anthem and the cheese stack for the guidos) it deffinately doesn't even come close to the damage he did 4-7 years ago.

How old are you? I could of swore in an earlier thread, that it was exposed you were under 18....

you don't have to be old to have heard old sets lol. and I think you guys may be missing the point. His sets have gotten progressively worse(although i still love the sets) but even though they are excellent sets and I go everytime I can, they are not the same as before. why? and here is the key point, b/c he is out of his prime. something I think a lot of people overlook is that eventually at some point everyone in any profession will be out of his prime and will not live up to their own standards.

He's been doin this for what 15-20 years or so? It eventually had to run out. So I mean of course he is not the same as before but his sets are a lot better than a lot of crap out there. So while his productions and everything have gone more commercial, remember pvd for what he use to be

I would be dissppointed if PVD style remained the same... I like progression. I would also argue the lack of quality compared to 5 years ago. I still think he is a brilliant dj, and imo the best in the trance genre.

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Originally posted by chrisday How old are you? I could of swore in an earlier thread, that it was exposed you were under 18....

My age has absolutely no effect on my knowledge of pvd's earlier sets and his sets today. I might be under age but I'm not deaf nor stupid.

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and here is the key point, b/c he is out of his prime. something I think a lot of people overlook is that eventually at some point everyone in any profession will be out of his prime and will not live up to their own standards.

I hate when you guys say this. You guys say it like it happens to everyone and nobody can fight against it or stop it. Hey look at Sven Vath, almost two decades later the guy still kills at gig, spinning brilliant stuff just like he did back then or even better.

The scene doesn't stand and fall with PvD, Armin or Ti�sto.
There will always be a "next generation" wich does better then the previous at some point and then takes over.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid My age has absolutely no effect on my knowledge of pvd's earlier sets and his sets today. I might be under age but I'm not deaf nor stupid. edit: I hate when you guys say this. You guys say it like it happens to everyone and nobody can fight against it or stop it. Hey look at Sven Vath, almost two decades later the guy still kills at gig, spinning brilliant stuff just like he did back then or even better.

Sven was at his prime in the early 90s. I don't think his sets today are nowhere nearly as good. I remember the article from 98 where he said he'd had enough of Trance. I can respect that, but truthfully I don't think his productions and sets have been nearly as good since (though they are interesting at times).

*HANGS HIMSELF*

Re: Is This Where PVD and Ferry Corsten Are Headed?

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Originally posted by CHRles http://youtube.com/watch?v=PdLaFJo4...related&search=

hehe

this kind of groups are making BIG BUCKS. In a lot of european countries Kids in the age 4-12 are absolutely loving this. And the parents keep on buying the cd's + merchandise.

i havent heard the whole "in between" album. but i have heard about half the songs on it and i rather like PVD's new album. i like ferry corsten alot, his new stuff such as brain box or the race are good tracks, but i rather like his older stuff more.

Actually i like that tune. Is that the new sound of mainstream dance?

kind of a "neo italodance" sound

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