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Posted by Capitalizt on Sep-06-2007 21:56:

Ron Paul B!TCH SLAPS neocons in last night's debate.

Paul vs Huckabee..



and more highlights from the entire debate (8 minutes):





The open mic laughs are from Giuliani, who still hasn't gotten over getting Pwnt with facts by Paul in the first few debates.
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Fox News Channel also had a "who won" text vote after the debate. With almost a million votes cast, here were the results:



Neocon hack Sean Hannity said Paul supporters were "dialing and redialing" to skew the results..

What he didn't mention was that is is IMPOSSIBLE to do this. Here is what happens when you try voting more than once...Ooops! No rigging!


Posted by Capitalizt on Sep-06-2007 22:11:

found another fan-made video on Youtube...There are some awesome quotes from Paul in here:


Posted by Krypton on Sep-06-2007 22:17:

Ron Paul owns. He shows us the Republican Party has lost touch with what it originally stood for, less government. He's got my vote.


Posted by ResonantDrag on Sep-06-2007 22:52:

damn, that huckabee is shit biscuit. where do the repubs find these guys?


Posted by Krypton on Sep-06-2007 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by ResonantDrag
damn, that huckabee is shit biscuit. where do the repubs find these guys?


I know, he actually made it clear the true intent of staying in Iraq was just to save face and honor.


Posted by Magnetonium on Sep-06-2007 23:12:



Seriously, how the hell is Ron Paul going to become a President? Is it really possible? I am placing bets against him, though I am his huge fan. And I better lose, because I have never lost a presidental electrocal prediction before that I have annouced ... If Ron Paul wins, well, I want someone to mention this statement that I just made, please ;-)


Posted by MisterOpus1 on Sep-06-2007 23:16:

quote:
Originally posted by ResonantDrag
damn, that huckabee is shit biscuit. where do the repubs find these guys?


Not to worry - another new actor has just come in to act "presidential" for them.


Posted by Magnetonium on Sep-06-2007 23:26:



I am just curious, but I have a question. If Ron Paul doesnt win the Presidential elections, and actually even doesnt get the Republican passing to the election show, what would you guys do? What actions would you undertake and will you try to voice something out far-reaching that politicians will hear?

The reason why I am asking is that I think Ron Paul is led and supported by the core underground pro-Constitution powerful people who have sworn to protect it, but he is battling high odds and if he is ditched here, I dont think another candidate like him will ever emerge, because many people will be either discouraged or think its not going to happen. I think the dark forces are looming over the horizon to take USA away, and Ron Paul is the last flicker of light to save the country and its Constitutional democracy ...


Posted by Krypton on Sep-06-2007 23:38:

The Libertarian Movement will live on and continue the hard work it takes to obtain power.


Posted by ResonantDrag on Sep-06-2007 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


Seriously, how the hell is Ron Paul going to become a President? Is it really possible? I am placing bets against him, though I am his huge fan. And I better lose, because I have never lost a presidental electrocal prediction before that I have annouced ... If Ron Paul wins, well, I want someone to mention this statement that I just made, please ;-)


what, there's a pool? when did you fill your bracket?


Posted by Capitalizt on Sep-07-2007 00:40:

If Ron Paul ever does drop out...I hope he will encourage all of his supporters and anyone who truly believes in the Constitution to throw their support behind the Libertarian Party. They may not have a snowball's chance of winning in 08'...but if their base is large enough, the other parties will be forced to co-opt libertarian positions if they hope to win elections in the future..

Socialists did the same thing back in the early 1900's.. The socialist party in America was becoming quite popular, and the democrats, fearing becoming obsolete, decided to take much of the socialist platform and make it their own...This is what gave us federal welfare, medicare, social security, a steeply progressive income tax (up to 91% under FDR, etc), tons of new government agencies, etc. Basically the entire New Deal was an extension of the socialist platform.

The socialist party candidate didn't make it into office, but because of overwhelming grassroots support for their ideas, nearly the entire socialist agenda was passed into law by a "major" political party. Hopefully we can accomplish the same thing by building a LIBERTY-oriented movement...focused on reducing government power, defending the Constitution, and giving people more control over their lives.. It's just a matter of educating people and building support on the grassroots level. If our numbers get large enough, there is no way the two-parties can continue ignoring these issues.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Sep-07-2007 01:30:

LOL, nice thread title.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-07-2007 02:19:

Let's help get him elected.

Sign up for your local Ron Paul campaign groups.

Ron Paul Activism


Posted by Omega_M on Sep-07-2007 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
found another fan-made video on Youtube...There are some awesome quotes from Paul in here:



Wow, this video is quite powerful.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Sep-07-2007 03:56:

Fuck this guy is truly awesome!!! I just doubt the Yanks are smart enough to vote for a guy like him.


We could use him up here tho for a prime minister position.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Sep-07-2007 04:04:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Fuck this guy is truly awesome!!! I just doubt the Yanks are smart enough to vote for a guy like him.


We could use him up here tho for a prime minister position.

He might actually have a decent chance at winning if recent online and tv polls are any indication. Under that assumption, unfortunately, most Americans won't be smart enough figure out that diebolt and the 2000 fraudulent vote counts actually have real implications about the functionality of the voting system reflecting the actual votes.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-07-2007 05:06:

I like Ron as well, but I think he scares the shit out of a lot of people with his fringe thinking.
It's not really 'fringe' but by frame of reference with where America stands now it sure is...


Posted by Renegade on Sep-07-2007 05:24:

Re: Ron Paul B!TCH SLAPS neocons in last night's debate.

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
Paul vs Huckabee..


He may have "bitchslapped" the neo-cons, but Huckabee still seemed to generate more applause from the crowd with his comments. This tells me two things:

1) The GOP and its base have long abandoned reason and ideas in favour of empty platitudes.
2) Ron Paul is not going to get the nomination.

In fact, this reminds me of:

quote:
Giuliani, who still hasn't gotten over getting Pwnt with facts by Paul in the first few debates.




Ron Paul: Iraq was an illadvised strategy that has benefitted the proponants of terror far more than it has benefitted the US.
Giuliani: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11!
Crowd: [wild applause]

Ron Paul seems to have strong support among disaffected libertarians on the internet - and this seems to be the foundation of his candidacy (much like disaffected liberals and Howard Dean in 2004) - but that seems to be about the extent of it. He's never going to win the support of the Republican rank and file so long as they're impressed by the blind-to-reality platitudes of the other candidates. Sad as it might be, the GOP has long since abandoned the small-government ideals that Ron Paul stands for. It's now the party of military adventurism, civil authoritarianism and overt religiosity - where does Ron Paul fit into all this?


Posted by hardcore trancer on Sep-07-2007 05:41:

Fuckin Giuliani it is like he has swallowd a tape recorder or something,all he says is 911 this and 911 that.

Are people actually falling for his bullshit over there?


It is going to be extremly difficult for a guy like Ron Paul to lead the polls since most of his own party dont support him on anything.


Posted by Capitalizt on Sep-07-2007 07:40:

Here is the full Giuliani exchange including Paul's follow up.
Of course Ron Paul was correct regarding blowback for our military intervention overseas.. He listed the reasons Bin Laden himself gave for attacking us and Giuliani claims it's an "absurd explanation". I think it's pretty damn scary for a presidential candidate to be so ignorant of world affairs..

FoxGOP debates, Ron Paul

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BIN LADEN'S FATWA (Why Ron Paul was Factually Correct) This is Bin Laden's declaration of War against the United States, made in 1996. He cites (1) US Involvement in the Middle East, (2) Palestine, and (3) Sanctions on Iraq resulting in 200,000+ civilian deaths as reasons why he has declared war.

To believe what Giuliani stated, that they hate us because of "our freedom", you must also believe in the tooth fairy..

Neocons are such dumbazzes. I hope they lose HUGE next year.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-07-2007 07:44:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
He might actually have a decent chance at winning if recent online and tv polls are any indication. Under that assumption, unfortunately, most Americans won't be smart enough figure out that diebolt and the 2000 fraudulent vote counts actually have real implications about the functionality of the voting system reflecting the actual votes.


yeah. i do not understand the complacency with which the US adopted electronic voting. fuck that, totally unacceptable.


Posted by Krypton on Sep-08-2007 01:53:

Ron Paul talks Federal Reserve and fiat money..


Posted by Krypton on Sep-08-2007 02:01:

I won't be voting Republican unless its Ron Paul.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Sep-08-2007 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Capitalizt
If Ron Paul ever does drop out...I hope he will encourage all of his supporters and anyone who truly believes in the Constitution to throw their support behind the Libertarian Party. They may not have a snowball's chance of winning in 08'...but if their base is large enough, the other parties will be forced to co-opt libertarian positions if they hope to win elections in the future..

Socialists did the same thing back in the early 1900's.. The socialist party in America was becoming quite popular, and the democrats, fearing becoming obsolete, decided to take much of the socialist platform and make it their own...This is what gave us federal welfare, medicare, social security, a steeply progressive income tax (up to 91% under FDR, etc), tons of new government agencies, etc. Basically the entire New Deal was an extension of the socialist platform.

The socialist party candidate didn't make it into office, but because of overwhelming grassroots support for their ideas, nearly the entire socialist agenda was passed into law by a "major" political party. Hopefully we can accomplish the same thing by building a LIBERTY-oriented movement...focused on reducing government power, defending the Constitution, and giving people more control over their lives.. It's just a matter of educating people and building support on the grassroots level. If our numbers get large enough, there is no way the two-parties can continue ignoring these issues.


Great point.


Posted by DJ Shibby on Sep-08-2007 02:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
I like Ron as well, but I think he scares the shit out of a lot of people with his fringe thinking.
It's not really 'fringe' but by frame of reference with where America stands now it sure is...


It's a damn shame.

The limiting factor in the human equation will always be humans.


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