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Posted by Blahzaay on Sep-07-2007 17:01:

Do you ever want to give up???

Hey guys...

It's 12:39am and I've been working on a new track for the last 9 hours without a break. The thing is, I do this often. I have been making trance for 3 or 4 years now and seem to be getting no where. This is the 1st time I have felt like giving up. Do u guys ever feel the same?

I know not everyone can be a superstar but I can't even finish a complete track. I have never been too good with my synth/lead work so I have mastered my percussion and drums and think I am pretty good with my basslines.

I took an electronic music production course a year ago with my mate and I learnt a hell of a lot. But I still can't seem to get any decent melodies down!! I also admit I never did too well with chord theory and all that kind of stuff so I'm always manually correcting with my mouse.

I feel so shit right now, music is the only thing I know and love (apart from basketball but hey I'm only 5'7" so I didn't get as far as I'd like ;-)

Usually I don't care how crap/good I'm doing, I always have a lot of fun trying to make my own tunes. But today is the 1st day I Have felt like I am wasting my life away....


Posted by JakeC on Sep-07-2007 17:02:

Stop thinking you have to get somewhere and then you will never have the thought again.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-07-2007 17:03:

More or less every single time I try to do something. You just have to get over the feeling somehow. I think it's mostly because you usually tend to be your own worst critic and in reality your work is far less shit than you think.


Posted by THE_Chris on Sep-07-2007 17:05:

I guess try doing some remixes, as that way the melody etc is done already for you??


Posted by Blahzaay on Sep-07-2007 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
I guess try doing some remixes, as that way the melody etc is done already for you??


That's an idea.... I have over 60,000 .midi files waiting patiently to be inserted in to my sequencer :-) Basically that's most half decent songs since the 50's.


Posted by Omega_Blue on Sep-07-2007 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
More or less every single time I try to do something. You just have to get over the feeling somehow. I think it's mostly because you usually tend to be your own worst critic and in reality your work is far less shit than you think.


+1, i don't produce as much but i have a lot of mental blocks when i try to construct a solid demo/mix.


Posted by Sykonee on Sep-07-2007 17:48:

If you're having trouble with melody, why not try making something that isn't dependent on it? Tech house, bangin' techno, glitch, drone ambient, musique concrete, scouse ( ).


Posted by Whirloop on Sep-07-2007 18:40:

Unless you have some serious deadline, take a break and let the insperation come to you (and not the other way around).


Posted by distant on Sep-07-2007 23:22:

Can't force it, man. It's gonna sound like dry, soulless crap. Also, 9 hours straight is bound to kill anyone's imagination...


Posted by Allied Nations on Sep-07-2007 23:44:

yeah i think giving your ears some time to breathe is always a good idea...


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-07-2007 23:45:

You should try writing a full length novel.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Sep-08-2007 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
yeah i think giving your ears some time to breathe is always a good idea...

I've never produced and haven't been DJing that long but in general in life I find... have a two week break from things you love. After that you will rediscover how fun or cool it is and will probably have a few new innovations to bring to the table.


Posted by Blahzaay on Sep-08-2007 02:56:

Cheers guys.... Your replies were a lot more friendlier than I thought and have been great help :-)

Just bought myself the Pee Wee Ferris Peaktime CD on my way back home from town and it's gotten me amped to jump back on again. Taking a break sounds like a great idea. My brain was hurting big time last night, it seemed the longer I went the less I could throw down.

Once again thanks a million!!!

-Brett


Posted by LionsLair on Sep-08-2007 03:04:

Anytime you lose inspiration listen to some good music, music you love. Ill take a break from making music and then I listen to some really good music and Im hungry again to make music. Also try finding a partner to bounce ideas off of, collaborate. Its like people who go to the gym to workout by themselves, they get half as much done as those who go with a gym partner, even though workingout is a one person task. g'luck


Posted by woscar on Sep-08-2007 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Blahzaay
Cheers guys.... Your replies were a lot more friendlier than I thought and have been great help :-)


-Brett


My thoughts exactly after reading everyone's replies, even Mr Mystery passed on the temptation to flame your ass...something's not right!

jk


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-08-2007 09:15:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar99
My thoughts exactly after reading everyone's replies, even Mr Mystery passed on the temptation to flame your ass...something's not right!

jk

You just had to, didn't you.

FFS.


Posted by Derivative on Sep-12-2007 14:28:

Shit, once in 4 years?

I've got this feeling once every couple of days for the past 3 years. Whatever you think about your last track (I always tend to think everything I produced more than 2 weeks ago is shit), theres almost always something about it that has improved from your last tune. Even if you don't notice it immediately.

You'll bounce back.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Sep-12-2007 15:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Whirloop
Unless you have some serious deadline, take a break and let the insperation come to you (and not the other way around).

and do drugs

seriously though, from the name of the thread I assumed it was asking whether one is planning to give up EDM in general (and listen to rock, jazz etc)


Posted by [mart] on Sep-12-2007 15:53:

I often spend several hours working on something that comes to nothing. It's not a great feeling. Even worse are the times when you think you're onto something, then take a break and return to find that you really weren't. Still, it makes the times when you do come up with something more rewarding, and it's always nice to have a bit of quality control instead of going along with any old crap.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-12-2007 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
(I always tend to think everything I produced more than 2 weeks ago is shit)



So true.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-12-2007 18:21:

Re: Do you ever want to give up???

quote:
Originally posted by Blahzaay

If you're not very good at playing by ear yet, try to learn that by practicing with a keyboard. That will help you get a "feel" for the music and make a better connection between hands, instrument, and brain / emotions.


Posted by nefardec on Sep-12-2007 18:40:

always

i'm not doing something well if this isn't part of my creative process

i fucking hate most everything i have ever done


Posted by Nik Novo on Sep-13-2007 08:19:

Very often.
What's really annoying, if when you have an idea in your mind, but you're just unable to turn it into something real, no matter how hard you try


Posted by noikeee on Sep-13-2007 13:45:

This is why I actually gave up.. I realised I had no talent whatsoever to make music, and spared the world from more horrific sounds.


Posted by Rinster on Sep-13-2007 14:44:

Re: Do you ever want to give up???

quote:
Originally posted by Blahzaay
Hey guys...

It's 12:39am and I've been working on a new track for the last 9 hours without a break. The thing is, I do this often. I have been making trance for 3 or 4 years now and seem to be getting no where. This is the 1st time I have felt like giving up. Do u guys ever feel the same?

I know not everyone can be a superstar but I can't even finish a complete track. I have never been too good with my synth/lead work so I have mastered my percussion and drums and think I am pretty good with my basslines.

I took an electronic music production course a year ago with my mate and I learnt a hell of a lot. But I still can't seem to get any decent melodies down!! I also admit I never did too well with chord theory and all that kind of stuff so I'm always manually correcting with my mouse.

I feel so shit right now, music is the only thing I know and love (apart from basketball but hey I'm only 5'7" so I didn't get as far as I'd like ;-)

Usually I don't care how crap/good I'm doing, I always have a lot of fun trying to make my own tunes. But today is the 1st day I Have felt like I am wasting my life away....


pretty much in the same boat man.. only thing is.. im not giving up.


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