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Posted by piku303 on Sep-10-2007 07:22:

sample cds

im looking for a good one hit drums sample cd. i am willing to pay, i actually want to! im tired out poor quality free samples. kicks similar to those used by artists such as alot of the newer trance styles. not so much clubie hard stuff but stuff like activa, alt + f4, above and beyond, and almost all the songs for free download in the trance addict singles area like GTR and Sonorous


Posted by [Alpha]Dave on Sep-10-2007 09:42:

This question has been asked a million times here before.. use the search button next time before starting new threads like this.....

But I'm gonna be nice to you anyways..
The most common sample-cd's around is:

Vengeance Essential Clubsounds Vol.1
Vengeance Essential Clubsounds Vol.2
Vengeance Minimal House
Eubershall Essential House
Eubershall Essential Trance

I can say for sure that the Vengeance CD's are one of the most common ones for this modern trance-stuff like A&B etc. Sure it got some good sounds, but in the end it's how you use the sounds that matters. Skills to produce quality tracks doesn't come over a night (or with a new sample cd).


Cheers,
Dave

PS. PLEASE use the search button next time, the forum is getting sooo crowded with allmost identical threads wich makes it a real hassle to brows..


Posted by Darkarbiter on Sep-10-2007 10:56:

BTW while we're on the topic of sample CDs anyone know a good sample CD set for Arabic Classical Instruments? Possibly Spanish stuff as well? I'm interested in producing some Ambient for the background music for certain game mods. I'm really into Arabic stuff atm and couldn't find any free samples of it on the net.


Posted by piku303 on Sep-10-2007 20:05:

im not new to any types of forums so i expected to get flamed haha. im just really pressed for time to get my gf some bday ideas. i already knew about vengeance before so a second opinion really helps. searches in most forums sucks ass so i didnt even try. next time, when i have more time, i will.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Sep-10-2007 20:13:

I've been looking at this:

http://www.soniccouture.com/pages/konkrete2.php

Not really for trance, though.


Posted by piku303 on Sep-10-2007 20:59:

well as for the vengeance essential club sounds... which one number 1 or number 2 would you guys recomend. the sampe from the first one sounded a lot more clubby and hardstylish. like i said im more in to producing more serious stuff similar to what armin is playing in a state of trance nowadays.


Posted by mysticalninja on Sep-10-2007 21:12:

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Posted by derail on Sep-10-2007 23:09:

I really like the "UK Trance" kicks on VEC2. Lots of good hihats, claps and other samples too.

I haven't tried the Synthation Producer essentials CD, but the audio demo sounds nice.


Posted by Bruce on Sep-11-2007 00:40:

I have VEC 1 and VEH 1 and don't expect to get big nice CLEAN kicks out of it. Most of the kicks are simply sampled from tracks and have significant fragments in them (rendering them useless for my purposes). I haven't tried the Synthation CD but apparently the kicks in that have similar problems.


Posted by Chronosis on Sep-11-2007 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
BTW while we're on the topic of sample CDs anyone know a good sample CD set for Arabic Classical Instruments? Possibly Spanish stuff as well?


What about Indian?

Zero G - Deepest India


Posted by derail on Sep-11-2007 02:45:

To my ears the UK Trance kicks on VEC2 are the cleanest of all the directories in Clubsounds 1 & 2, which is why I tend to gravitate towards them. A lot of the others have a lot more processing, gate effects, reverbs, hihat/other fragments etc.

Bruce, what do you use for ready-to-use, clean fantastic kicks? What are the best you've found, if an artist has no desire to build their own from the ground up?

I'm keen to pick up the synthation CD at some stage, but I'd like to hear your recommendations!


Posted by Bruce on Sep-11-2007 04:02:

I haven't heard the UK Trance Kicks on VEC2 but yeah, like you mentioned, most of the other ones that I have heard have fragments.

I'm yet to hear a sample CD which has any kicks like the ones on the Vengeance CD's but which are clean. I think you really have to start with a clean sample and build your own. So far I have been using 'Drumazon' from D16 which is a good 909 emulation and working from there.

I'm still not satisfied with my results yet though (which is probably due to a lack of skill more than anything else) and of late I have been tempted by the Jomox MBase which is an analog kick machine. I think this machine will provide me with the rich clean tone that I have been craving.


Posted by derail on Sep-11-2007 04:27:

The Jomox unit does look interesting. Does that have preset storage? I usually choose my kick sound once I have my main melody going. Sometimes before I have the bass sound happening, in which case I fit the bass to the kick, sometimes after, in which case the reverse. But most of the time I don't have a definite vision of the kick sound I'm after. I like having a folder of kicks which cover a wide range of sounds, then just going with what feels best musically. Sometimes that will be a hard hitting kick with a decent attack transient, sometimes it'll be a very subdued sound. It's an enjoyable process for me. If the Jomox has a bunch of different presets, the process would still be fun, and the samples would be cleaner.

I'd be keen to hear it in action, to see how much needs to be done with it, compression and eq-wise. (what I like about the Vengeance kicks, for my personal workflow, is that they drop in and work straight up. I'll eq a bit here and there as needed, but the samples I was using previously needed a lot more processing before they were ready for use)

Using the Jomox, would you create a single clean sample, then use that, or feed midi to the unit and record the whole song's worth of kicks? (I guess if you have automation on there you'd record the whole song...)

Why don't people who create sample CDs use machines like the Jomox, or the 808 or 909 to create their kick samples? Or if they do, why does it seem so hard to get a bunch of producers to find them and buy them, and all agree "yes, these are good clean samples"? (hmm, I'll have to check the mutekki website...from memory they have something on offer out of a Jomox Airbase (?) I could be totally off track...)


Posted by Bruce on Sep-11-2007 06:58:

Yeah its got preset storage. Heres a link to some samples off the Jomox website:

http://www.jomox.com/sounds_mb.htm

The kicks sound pretty good and seem to 'hit' at the right frequency for me. I'd probably just take a single sample off it. And yeah I think that the Mutekki website has a comprehensive sample CD/DVD of an Airbase. I'm not sure if there is a difference between the kick sound on an Airbase and the MBase - probably something I should find out because then I could just get the sample CD and not bother buying the MBase.


Posted by Chronosis on Sep-11-2007 12:59:

quote:
Originally posted by derail
Why don't people who create sample CDs use machines like the Jomox, or the 808 or 909 to create their kick samples?


Because people have different tastes. Personally I'm more into funkier kicks instead of those clean, synthetic ones. One of my favourite sample cd's is called "Retro Funk" (by Spectrasonics). So each to it's own.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Sep-16-2007 11:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Chronosis
What about Indian?

Zero G - Deepest India

Perfect thanks.



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