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Photos: DIRTY @ Footwork, 16-09-2007

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I'm off to work.

Nice footos

Btw Footwork looks like a serious $hithole in those pix, when in reality its a realy nice place.

wow can photos be any darker then above? did you have any flash at all?

that's some horrible photos

i don't know about the other settings as i don't have a dslr, but i know that having the exposure compensation at -0.7 will only make picutres darker than they really should. that's one of the reasons they look so dark.

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Originally posted by geroin that's some horrible photos

lol Gera you read my thoughts
I was trying to be politically correct!

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Originally posted by geroin that's some horrible photos

lol

I love your brutal honesty.

you guys are mean

Footwork ain't the greatest place to take shots either, and hell, I try; I'm kinda learning my way to photography in poorly lit places; I don't wanna use too much flash to the extend where people close their eyes in shots; I'm sure I could use all of your wonderful advices.

I posted them for the sake of those who wanted them.

Thanks for all the love.

the main problem here is really composition. try filling more of the frame with your subjects. and the fact that the place is so empty doesnt help either.

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Originally posted by jeeper_095 Footwork ain't the greatest place to take shots either, and hell, I try; I'm kinda learning my way to photography in poorly lit places; I don't wanna use too much flash to the extend where people close their eyes in shots; I'm sure I could use all of your wonderful advices. I posted them for the sake of those who wanted them. Thanks for all the love.

its not a matter of using too much flash. you need flash in a club. i even have my FEV set to +2/3. do not use Av (aperture priority) mode because your shutter will be open for too long and cause blur in your subjects. play around with full manual mode. it will be a bitch to learn at first when you are getting use to various lighting conditions but you will be glad that you did.

ps. avoid crowd shots if a venue isnt very busy. justin chung should take this advice as well.

pps. you're using a nikon d40. ewwww

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Originally posted by terrytutone the main problem here is really composition. try filling more of the frame with your subjects. and the fact that the place is so empty doesnt help either.

FW was ridiculously empty that night but thanks for the suggestion. Truth of the matter is that I have a crappy 18-55 mm lens, f3.5 that's not very practical with what I really want to get in clubs, I always have to focus manually with this lens. the 50 mm f1.4 won't help me much either because its manual.

A good and logical upgrade would be a 28-70mm f/2.8D like this one here, wider lens=more light gets in (77mm vs 52mm ), so I can make out things better instead of just guessing at it.

I'll get that when I finally have more time (other than once a week) to dedicate myself to photography and learning how to get shoot from the best angle with the perfect timing to get the best of things happening at these great events/venues.

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Originally posted by smuncky i don't know about the other settings as i don't have a dslr, but i know that having the exposure compensation at -0.7 will only make picutres darker than they really should. that's one of the reasons they look so dark.

You're right, just got home from work and checked the settings on it as I left them, compensation was low; I had done some nature shots the week before where I wanted to darken my shots a bit. I forgot about it and nor did it cross my mind to look into it that night, I guess that's where the actual experience kicks in.

Re: the usage of the flash

I used one, not the built-in; one that I have purchased earlier in the day because I knew how terrible is to take pictures at that place and I really wanted to go to this event. I should've gone through the booklet that came with it quickly to figure out how to work with it to improve the lighting.

your advice/feedback is kindly appreciated, I admit that this is not the best of my photography as I don't usually take shots in dark places but I'm open to suggestions.

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Originally posted by chinamon its not a matter of using too much flash. you need flash in a club. i even have my FEV set to +2/3. do not use Av (aperture priority) mode because your shutter will be open for too long and cause blur in your subjects. play around with full manual mode. it will be a bitch to learn at first when you are getting use to various lighting conditions but you will be glad that you did. ps. avoid crowd shots if a venue isnt very busy. justin chung should take this advice as well. pps. you're using a nikon d40. ewwww

thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.

what's wrong with the D40? I'm happy with it so far, it's the lens that I use that I don't really like (night shots or dark places). When the time is right, I'm gonna get the wider lens 18-55mm f2.8.
D40 seems like a good beginner-intermediate camera, suits me as I only use it 1-2 times a week.

Manual is better, I just got lazy with the aperture and shutter speed that night, I switched between Aperture and Shutter priority frequently

geez place does look pretty empty

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Originally posted by jeeper_095 FW was ridiculously empty that night but thanks for the suggestion. Truth of the matter is that I have a crappy 18-55 mm lens, f3.5 that's not very practical with what I really want to get in clubs, I always have to focus manually with this lens. the 50 mm f1.4 won't help me much either because its manual. A good and logical upgrade would be a 28-70mm f/2.8D like this one here, wider lens=more light gets in (77mm vs 52mm ), so I can make out things better instead of just guessing at it.

i think you have your terminology all mixed up. when you say "wider lens" you seem to be referring to the focal length (ie. 77mm vs 52mm) but the focal length has nothing to do with how much light it lets in. focal length is just the zoom. the aperture is the size of the hole which determines how much light is let in.

as for getting a 28-70mm f/2.8, the wide aperture (f/2.8) is a plus but shooting at 28mm in a packed club isnt very fun. i would suggest getting a wider lens. i use a tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 and its great when you dont have very much room to work with.

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Originally posted by jeeper_095 what's wrong with the D40? I'm happy with it so far, it's the lens that I use that I don't really like (night shots or dark places). When the time is right, I'm gonna get the wider lens 18-55mm f2.8. D40 seems like a good beginner-intermediate camera, suits me as I only use it 1-2 times a week.

i guess you didnt do much research on the d40 in regards to its AF motor and lens compatibility. you would've been better off spending a tiny bit more and getting the canon xti or even the nikon d70/80.

NO COMMENT

see im not mean sasha.....

I just dont think those pics are worthy of commenting....


unless you see a pulitzer i cant see.

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Originally posted by rulzz geez place does look pretty empty

it was brutally slow.

I usually do about 400 people for my events there.

we did just over 100!


I guess you really can't win them all


some sick tunes though.

Give him a break. Atleast he fuckin' tried. More than what we can say for some of you.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Give him a break. Atleast he fuckin' tried. More than what we can say for some of you.

at least we were honest!

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Originally posted by Frenchie Give him a break. Atleast he fuckin' tried. More than what we can say for some of you.

i hope you werent talking to me. i was nice and gave him some tips.

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Originally posted by chinamon i hope you werent talking to me. i was nice and gave him some tips.

No not you, but most of the others.

Instead of saying "omg so bad blablabla" give him some pointers instead of just instulting his work. It's fantastic to be honest but when you say something is bad atleast give legit helpful hints if you think you're better than him.

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Originally posted by Frenchie No not you, but most of the others. Instead of saying "omg so bad blablabla" give him some pointers instead of just instulting his work. It's fantastic to be honest but when you say something is bad atleast give legit helpful hints if you think you're better than him.

Tricia why do we have to be better then him to criticize? for someone to open up a whole new thread with pictures, he must have seen other pic threads - chinamon's, Sasha's, Shaya's, and how up to par they are

anyway, Jay already gave him some guidance, as for the rest of us, we were just honest - pics are dark, blurry, half of the ppl were shot at least fortunate angles, etc.

def needs more practice, and guidance, oh and to be less whinny about criticism

This man went to a club, partied to good music and throughout the night took pics and shared them with the forum. WHY THE FUCK DOES HE HAVE TO BE "UP TO PAR" with the likes of sasha, shaya and jason...the mans just trying to add something to the forum as there was no review and many people wanna see whats goin on at FW and you just belittle him for his efforts. get the fuck over yourself.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew Tricia why do we have to be better then him to criticize? for someone to open up a whole new thread with pictures, he must have seen other pic threads - chinamon's, Sasha's, Shaya's, and how up to par they are

and you really think I posted them for the sake of attention whoring? ...com'on now this is getting ridiculous.. I posted them for the sake of the people who wanted them(not everybody wants to give out email addresses) and for you to see how the place was that night, or at least for you to get an idea if you weren't there. The shots weren't all fucked up,at least to say a few of them were decent.

and nor do I dare to compare myself to Jay, Sasha or Shaya, they've been doing this for far longer than I have, they're far more experienced, they know their settings for all these venues;

the point wasn't to promote myself as a photographer (because I ain't near being a good one yet); my work was near terrible for the night, honestly there wasn't much to shoot as the whole night wasn't too great. Well, the tunes were good, that was the only good thing that night, I'm at least happy with that because I go there to chill.

It's all past tense now, I learned new things now thanks to advices/pointers posted here and I'll put it to good use next time.

Jay, I'll be looking into those tamrons for mine, because they are 1/3 of the price of a Nikkor, but I'm still a bit skeptical. thanks for advice you posted here, good pointers, same goes to smucky and terrytutone and the rest.

D80/D70 seem now like a good buy since the lens compatibility issue was brought up to me when I got my 50mm, but hey, if I can work with it, that's all I care. A friend had a D80 and he had problems with it and the quality of shots didn't differ much from D40. I chose to go price wise since, for what I thought would be a good "toy" to have.

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we were just honest def needs more practice, and guidance,

and I appreciate your honestly; nor that I bitched at you for being straight forward or bitch at you at all.

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oh and to be less whinny about criticism

where was I ever whining about it? Whatever seemed like whining, it wasn't, I don't do that kinda crap.

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Originally posted by activate some sick tunes though.

yessir they were, too bad the atmosphere wasn't at its best.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Give him a break. Atleast he fuckin' tried. More than what we can say for some of you.

*hug*

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Originally posted by Adamo This man went to a club, partied to good music and throughout the night took pics and shared them with the forum. WHY THE FUCK DOES HE HAVE TO BE "UP TO PAR" with the likes of sasha, shaya and jason...the mans just trying to add something to the forum as there was no review and many people wanna see whats goin on at FW and you just belittle him for his efforts. get the fuck over yourself.

*hug* ..lol


Now let's all move on and deal with this like the grown-ups we are, my objective was not to start a silly thread nor to open subject to insults and boycotting.
Let's put this thread to sleep, shall we?

Any other suggestions, pointers and such, please PM me instead.
Thank you and have a good night!

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Originally posted by Adamo

one phrase for you - fuck off, fuckwit.

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Originally posted by jeeper_095

good reply, and I do wish you best of luck in future photography endeavors

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