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Posted by Shakka on Sep-18-2007 12:17:

Student tased at John Kerry event

Did anyone see this? I wonder what his question was (or how he asked it)?


Posted by Magnetonium on Sep-18-2007 13:23:



This is fucking ridiculous ... I watched the Shaolin's clip, too ... there was no reason for police using all that force (when its obvious that the student is actually trying to leave on his own). And most people in the audience apart from the brave few just took it like a normal occurence ... this is appalling.


Posted by ResonantDrag on Sep-18-2007 13:38:

Re: Student tased at John Kerry event

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Did anyone see this? I wonder what his question was (or how he asked it)?


something about the Yale Scull n Crossbones society..


Posted by ResonantDrag on Sep-18-2007 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


This is fucking ridiculous ... I watched the Shaolin's clip, too ... there was no reason for police using all that force (when its obvious that the student is actually trying to leave on his own). And most people in the audience apart from the brave few just took it like a normal occurence ... this is appalling.


no, what you witnessed was a riot!!

anybody know if those were campus cops?


Posted by Renegade on Sep-18-2007 15:20:

Re: Student tased at John Kerry event

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Did anyone see this? I wonder what his question was (or how he asked it)?


Full question's on youtube:



This account from facebook explains what happened earlier:

quote:
I was just at a conference where John Kerry was the speaker. During the Q&A section, a hyperactive young man grabbed the microphone while someone else was asking a question, proclaiming that he would like to ask a question. The leader of the conference just announced 5 minutes before that the current person asking a question was to be the last person to ask a question. The hyperactive young man was being forced by the police to leave the building. During this dramatized event, John Kerry said to the security to let him ask the question, but first let him finish with the current one being asked. The police respected John Kerry�s request but stood very closely to the young man. When it was the young man�s turn to speak, he was very revved up. But I would be too, if I was just handled that way by the police enforcement. He did ask a controversial question and was a bit out of line, even to make one police officer to try to pull him away while he was speaking. After he was done, the police did not just let him go sit down or leave the building. The police literally hurdled towards him and started to force him away.


http://ufl.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4866593998

The civil libertarian in me says the police probably over-reacted (even though he forcably resited being escorted from the building, tried to run away, then forcably resisted being cuffed) but the rest of me thinks thinks he probably deserved it anyway. He tried to hijack a forum that was about to finish just so he could get up on his soap-box and lecture a senator about a fucking skull & bones conspiracy theory, which just smacks of misguided self-importance. Same with all that carry-on about "People know I'm here, you can't kill me!"

Then he, you know, refused to leave a private event he was causing a disturbance at as though he had any inherent right to do what he was doing.

Frankly, he deserved to be tasered once for resisting arrest and then tasered again just for being a fuckwit.


Posted by Shakka on Sep-18-2007 20:33:

Fuckin' kids these days. No respect.


Posted by Sunsnail on Sep-18-2007 21:03:

Wasn't aware you could be abused by law enforcement because you aren't respectful enough


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-18-2007 22:54:



"In a fashion remenicent of Genghis Kahn"

i stole that


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-18-2007 22:57:

whats funny is ShaolinZ is like one bus ride downtown from being that poor bastard.


Posted by Magnetonium on Sep-18-2007 23:15:



If I am not mistaken, the police were all over the poor guy before he could even finish the question. What does that have to do with his later attempts to leave on his own?


Posted by Spirit5 on Sep-18-2007 23:35:

I don't think Kerry has anything to do with this, heck he was willing to answer the guys question. But I would have at least hoped he would have intervened, demanded the police leave the guy alone. It wasn't like he threatened Kerry. Police brutality if you ask me...so those who want to take pock shots at Kerry again (swift boat him if you will)...well that's not needed here.

He even said today he was upset with how the police tazored this guy...all for asking questions (or being rude). There's no law against rudeness. All they should have did was reprimand him, and if he still continued to be rude, ask him to leave. But hand cuffing him, throwing him to the ground...tazoring him...the "crime" doesn't fit the punhishment delivered. Even though I'm not a huge fan, it's kind of like what has happened with Sen. Larry Craig. I think they are making a bigger deal (the police) out of little things, and I definitely think someone had an agenda (the police officer) who arrested him. These officers could have had an agenda too...the questions seem to really have sparked the police response more than anything.


Posted by Magnetonium on Sep-18-2007 23:48:



Nope, I didnt hear John Kerry answer the question. All I heard "everyone please calm down" etc ... he didnt answer it. Plus, what would he say - obviously, he will laugh it off and say that he cant talk about it. Like in other Youtube clips where he was asked the question.


Posted by josh4 on Sep-19-2007 00:26:

Probably another one of those conservative right-wing nut jobs hassling our good democratic senators. Why do they hate America?

Nothing to see here, if it weren't for the digital age of web videos, bloggers, etc. keeping this story active we'd be on to something else by now. Anybody remember Mostafa Tabatabainejad? Everybody was up in arms about that until they figured out he was an idiot. Just dumb kids trying to make points where there aren't any points to make, except that they are dumb kids.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-19-2007 00:59:

Re: Re: Student tased at John Kerry event

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade

This account from facebook explains what happened earlier:

http://ufl.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4866593998

The civil libertarian in me says the police probably over-reacted (even though he forcably resited being escorted from the building, tried to run away, then forcably resisted being cuffed) but the rest of me thinks thinks he probably deserved it anyway. He tried to hijack a forum that was about to finish just so he could get up on his soap-box and lecture a senator about a fucking skull & bones conspiracy theory, which just smacks of misguided self-importance. Same with all that carry-on about "People know I'm here, you can't kill me!"

Then he, you know, refused to leave a private event he was causing a disturbance at as though he had any inherent right to do what he was doing.

Frankly, he deserved to be tasered once for resisting arrest and then tasered again just for being a fuckwit.


yeah, that's exactly what i thought too. way to go championing your first amendment rights dickhead. i mean seriously- you have the ear of one of your leaders and you waste that valuable time with bullshit. not sure he deserved to get tasered for resisting arrest, but definitely deserved it for being a dickhead.


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-19-2007 01:50:

HELP I"M BEING REPRESSED!!!!!!!!!!!



"it's the violence inherent in the system"


Posted by Shakka on Sep-19-2007 03:02:

"Who was that?"

"Must be a king."

"How d'you know he's a king?"

"Because he hasn't got shit all over him!"


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-19-2007 03:19:


ARTHUR:
Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
WOMAN:
Order, eh? Who does he think he is? Heh.
ARTHUR:
I am your king!
WOMAN:
Well, I didn't vote for you.
ARTHUR:
You don't vote for kings.
WOMAN:
Well, how did you become King, then?
ARTHUR:
The Lady of the Lake,...
[angels sing]
...her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur.
[singing stops]
That is why I am your king!
DENNIS:
Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
ARTHUR:
Be quiet!

BHAHAHAHAHA!!


Posted by hardcore trancer on Sep-19-2007 04:57:

Democracy?freedom of speach? I guess those things are becoming the thing in the past.

yet we go to other nations and demanding them to have freedom of speach.


Posted by Yohan on Sep-19-2007 05:12:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Democracy?freedom of speach? I guess those things are becoming the thing in the past.

yet we go to other nations and demanding them to have freedom of speach.

Generally lipping off to cops and acting like a jerk is going to get you hurt.

It's not his house. He was asked to leave. He didn't cooperate. Security came and he still keep up his yap and not cooperating.

Yep. Taser time


Posted by hardcore trancer on Sep-19-2007 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Generally lipping off to cops and acting like a jerk is going to get you hurt.

It's not his house. He was asked to leave. He didn't cooperate. Security came and he still keep up his yap and not cooperating.

Yep. Taser time




Taser is the way to go I guess these days to shut everybody off.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Sep-19-2007 06:50:

Re: Re: Student tased at John Kerry event

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Full question's on youtube:



This account from facebook explains what happened earlier:



http://ufl.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4866593998

The civil libertarian in me says the police probably over-reacted (even though he forcably resited being escorted from the building, tried to run away, then forcably resisted being cuffed) but the rest of me thinks thinks he probably deserved it anyway. He tried to hijack a forum that was about to finish just so he could get up on his soap-box and lecture a senator about a fucking skull & bones conspiracy theory, which just smacks of misguided self-importance. Same with all that carry-on about "People know I'm here, you can't kill me!"

Then he, you know, refused to leave a private event he was causing a disturbance at as though he had any inherent right to do what he was doing.

Frankly, he deserved to be tasered once for resisting arrest and then tasered again just for being a fuckwit.

No, I think you "deserve" to be tasered for being a fuckwit.


Posted by Yohan on Sep-19-2007 06:58:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Taser is the way to go I guess these days to shut everybody off.

I suppose bouncing this kid's head off the concrete might be more fun for the cops. Or a baton up the ass.

End result is that this kid now knows that when a cop tells you to leave, it's probably good for his health to leave and sort out any police abuse of power and whatnot later with a lawyer. Heck, try to sue the police for all he can.

At least he saves himself some bodily harm.


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-19-2007 08:08:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Taser is the way to go I guess these days to shut everybody off.


pepper spray.

hands down, the worst.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-19-2007 08:13:

Re: Re: Re: Student tased at John Kerry event

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
No, I think you "deserve" to be tasered for being a fuckwit.


gee, someone's taken their angry pills. wtf mate? renegade is one of the brightest and best contributors in the whole PDD he doesnt deserve the treatment you might reserve for yours truly

but whilst we're here... what's your point?


Posted by Q5echo on Sep-19-2007 09:07:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what's your point?


he just proved that there can really be no true freedom of speech no matter who's ideology is in percieved power. whether it be ShaolinZZzz or Kim Jung Il.

hypocracy at it's most ordinary


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