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Timecoded vynils vs. Real vinyls what do you think?

I need some opinions before buying some gear.

All I can comment on is Torq. It works just like a real vinyl. It's just as accurate. Not sure what else to tell ya...

I don't get the question. Are you asking about the advantages of both?
Are you trying to decide which one to go for?

apples vs oranges?

now go!

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Originally posted by Tony Morello apples vs oranges? now go!

oranges are good for energy and have a sour taste,
apples on the other hand are bitter-sweet.

oranges are orange and apples are red.... or green...

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Originally posted by a.chan oranges are good for energy and have a sour taste, apples on the other hand are bitter-sweet.

It depends on the variety.

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Originally posted by Tony Morello apples vs oranges?

Sif you can compare those...
Oranges are way out of apples league!


Hmm time coded vinyls vs real vinyls...?
If you where using time coded vinyls, what is stopping you from using real vinyls?

Just go buy Serato and get it over and done with.

I just had some doubts about the timecoded vynil system. Is it really that accurate? I mean there's GOT TO BE some latency due to digital processing but I wanted to know if that latency was important. Could anybody tell the difference between timecoded vynils and real vynils just by the feel of it?

Stop saying "vynil".

Just stop being Mr. Mystery

Yeah. Zing.

19 minutes for 2 words. Nice.

Edit: end of story.

...what?

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery ...what?

Cretin Features thinks you hung around for 19 minutes thinking of a response to his witty, witty banter.

On timecoded vinyls you can't see the grooves in the record itself so cant tell where the beakdown etc. is without looking at the waveform on the screen, however i presume you can use really rubbish cartridges and it wont make any difference to the sound quality.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Cretin Features thinks you hung around for 19 minutes thinking of a response to his witty, witty banter.

It is your job to assist Mr. Mystery?

Great question. Could you follow the example set forth by the person in your sig?

I've stopped posting on tranceaddict.com for 3 months because of guys like Mr. Mystery.
I think guys like him need to learn the lesson.

Don't you think that he could have adopted a different behaviour when commenting on my spelling of the word "vinyl"? The guy doesn't even care about the thread. He just comes in to barren honest posters.

If you look at his posts at this page, you'll see all the really constructive and interesting comments produced by this very particular character.

"you, sir, are a jackass and by the looks of it obviously blind"

"Fuck off lol"

I think I made my point. I respect others posters but I can't stand agressive and unfounded babble from the likes of Mr. Mystery.

Now if you're reading this and you JUDGE (not think) that I'm wrong, please send me a PM and I'll be glad to discuss the matter with you.

Now Back to the topic.

Looking at the waveforms on the screen isn't a problem. And if it's dark, it's actually nicer than trying to see your records.

As for cartridges... you absolutely CANNOT skimp on those. You need a loud, clear timecode signal going into your laptop or you will have a NIGHTMARE of a time (think, the music stops or starts skipping randomly).

I have both Serato and Torq, and I find that Serato is a bit more stable as far as latency and keeping a very stable timecode signal. But Torq is actually pretty darn close, and it's half the price. There are other things in Serato that I feel make it a more "professional" application, but for dicking around at home Torq is fine.

I actually currently have Torq running with my 1200-MK5's, and Serato running on my CDJ-1000's. Serato and CDJ's is very, very nice. The system just works amazingly well, is super accurate, and anything introduced by using timecode is imperceptible.

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Originally posted by the_gamemaster On timecoded vinyls you can't see the grooves in the record itself so cant tell where the beakdown etc. is without looking at the waveform on the screen, however i presume you can use really rubbish cartridges and it wont make any difference to the sound quality.

I see what your trying to ask now.
Pretty much, it's a self answering question...the only reason to use vinyl nowadays is for time controlled applications such as torq, ssl, and fs. If you're sticking to vinyl simply because of the feel, or don;t have CDJs, then time controlled is the way to go, for obvious reasons. Latency is hardly noticeable, BUT, because it is a setup based on digital components, there is a chance of computer based errors occuring, or in the worst case, your computer crashing(which has never happened to me...but did to my friend, DURING A GIG.)
Otherwise, if your stikcing with vinyl, non-time controlled vinyl is pretty much obsolete for your purposes. It's just not worth it to spend 13 bucks on one song for one record.

Thanks for all your opinions. I got FS 1.5, I'll check it out as soon as I get it.

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Originally posted by ponsshin Thanks for all your opinions. I got FS 1.5, I'll check it out as soon as I get it.

Whoa!!! Hold up. If you would've said FS 1.5 since the beginning, the responses would've been a lot different. I'm sorry but FS 1.5 has a lot of bugs. I owned it and only used it live like 3 times. I sold it after a couple of months. FS 1.5 doesn't emulate vinyl nearly as good as Serato, FS 2.0, or Torq.

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Originally posted by DjWoody Whoa!!! Hold up. If you would've said FS 1.5 since the beginning, the responses would've been a lot different. I'm sorry but FS 1.5 has a lot of bugs. I owned it and only used it live like 3 times. I sold it after a couple of months. FS 1.5 doesn't emulate vinyl nearly as good as Serato, FS 2.0, or Torq.

Well then I'll try it a few times and if I don't like it, I'll sell it on eBay or something.

Edit:
Nevermind, I'm not stooping to your level.

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