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mac vs. pc

what is the advantage and disadvantage
of buying a mac-pro

anyone can tell me please?
thanks a lot friends!

Totally depends on what software you want to run. Although, you can dual boot to windows on a mac now. So, what it mainly comes down to two things IMHO:
1. Do you want to run software that is only available on a mac?
2. What's your budget? A good mac is expensive.

The way I look at it... Macs are for people that don't want to dick around. "It just works". You pay for that luxury though. PCs give you a lot more options software-wise, but aren't as stable IMO. They're obviously cheaper too.

I use a PC, because thats what all my software needs. If I was buying NEW... right now... I would probably buy a Mac, due to the recent price drop on Logic 8.

I want to run logic on the mac..
logic sound better than cubase..

the mixdown on logic or cubase is different mixdown!
but mac is so expensive

i'm ask myself if it worth the money

what do you thinks friends??

mac pro 5000-6000$ (without logic) logic=1200$
SUPER PC=1500$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by djtop1 I want to run logic on the mac.. logic sound better than cubase..

Sounds like you have already made up your mind.

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Originally posted by djtop1 i'm ask myself if it worth the money

That's totally up to you dude. We all have a different financial situation, so no one can really answer that question for you.

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Originally posted by djtop1 mac pro 5000-6000$ (without logic) logic=1200$ SUPER PC=1500$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to assume that there is some type of currency conversion there and that that price is not in USD because you can get a Mac Pro that has absolutely everything you need for music production for under $3K. Plus logic pro 8 is only $500.

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Originally posted by djtop1 I want to run logic on the mac.. logic sound better than cubase..

It does? Well shit...

I guess if you buy a Mac then you are more likely to be pr0.

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Originally posted by djtop1 I want to run logic on the mac.. logic sound better than cubase..

too bad that a lot of people complain about the outdated logic audio engine

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Originally posted by http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse...cgi?u=macs_cant Apple is a company that has built its entire user base around the fact that its users can't do simple things

So true.

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Originally posted by thecYrus too bad that a lot of people complain about the outdated logic audio engine

There is no such thing as "audio engine" it's a marketing term.

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Originally posted by djtop1 the mixdown on logic or cubase is different mixdown! !

can anybody explain this?

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Originally posted by kooma There is no such thing as "audio engine" it's a marketing term.

well audio engine is the bus summing in the mathematical way. so no 32 bit support is a feature-lack of an outdated audio engine..

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Originally posted by thecYrus well audio engine is the bus summing in the mathematical way. so no 32 bit support is a feature-lack of an outdated audio engine..

Logic doesnt support 32bit float?

ROFL.

Even FL has had that shit for years.

i dont understand the whole .. 'macs are more stable' bullshit...im running a 6 yearold pc....and have never ever had any stability issues...

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Originally posted by ASFSE im running a 6 yearold pc...

and there's the reason

there are less variables with macs, because the hardware and software are made by the same company.

is a 6 yo PC supposed to b stable? as opposed to a new PC...lol..im confused

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Originally posted by ASFSE is a 6 yo PC supposed to b stable? as opposed to a new PC...lol..im confused

Old things are more stable because they've had hundreds of bug fixes etc. over the years. The newer something is, the more likely you are to have problems. Think about Windows Vista.

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Originally posted by I<3acid can anybody explain this?

Too much crack for breakfast maybe? Thats all I got.

But what the whole ecstacy about logic in the world?!

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Originally posted by thecYrus well audio engine is the bus summing in the mathematical way. so no 32 bit support is a feature-lack of an outdated audio engine..

every DAW out there uses at least 32-bit floating point calculations for internal processing (including summing busses). sonar uses double precision (64-bit). the conversion to 16 or 24-bit (or whatever) audio is done at the output when all busses are summed already (using floating point calculations). and 24-bit for mastering is enough.
i don't go around saying that cubase logic or flstudio has outdated "audio engine" 'cause sonar uses double precision (and has used for 2 years). and u don't make the transition to sonar 'cause your favourite DAW has outdated "audio engine". in the end it all comes down to workflow. your personal preference.

PS! i don't use sonar.

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Originally posted by djtop1 But what the whole ecstacy about logic in the world?!

ecstasy ecstasyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ecstasy ecstasyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CdkdXciIek

i have had a powerbook for 4 years now, on the net and dloading all the time... no virus scanners or anything. just the odd update here and there, and i haven't had one issues. My girlfriends hp laptop lasted 2 months till it had to be formatted, and my brothers pc lasted 4 months and its already in repair. I rather pay the money upfront and not worry about anything.
Over priced.....very. Worth it? yes.
They are work horses.
hope that helps

PC vs. Mac is always a hassle.

Everybody has an opinion about it. So far this topic is doing reasonably well considering the past topics about this. However, if the topicstarter starts to claim the following:

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I want to run logic on the mac.. logic sound better than cubase.. the mixdown on logic or cubase is different mixdown!

I really feel inclined to say you're being led by what others tell you. And far from everything on the internet is 100% true. Most likely more than 99% biased actually.

First of all Logic sounds better to you, compared to Cubase. It's subjective, an opinion. It can not be a fact. Of course the sequencers sounds different. That only makes sense since different people have been working on different things, and both the developers have a different view on things.

On top of that you actually already give away the answer yourself. You 'want to run login on the mac'. Well you can, and since Logic 8 is very cheap compared to 7 I see no reason why you shouldn't. However it is not a question we can answer for you. Yes it's worth the money, but a generic pc with reasonable hardware can do just about the same thing. You decide what to do with your money.

If you really had a clue what you want, what you're aiming for, what works for you or what you are talking about you wouldn't be asking us what to do. I would recommend you to think it over carefully and decide what to spend your money on.

If you did know what you are doing you wouldn't need to ask this question. Just because of that I would recommend you to try out some sequencers (demos/at friends etc), find out what you like/dislike, what kind of workflow you prefer. And definitely not spend any money until you know what to spend it on, and why you're spending it!

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Originally posted by Mr Rogers i have had a powerbook for 4 years now, on the net and dloading all the time... no virus scanners or anything. just the odd update here and there, and i haven't had one issues.

Just about the same here (internet all day+no virus scanner/firewall etc), but on a windows pc. Still going strong, no problems at all .
Have done an online virus check (Trend Micro) about a year ago but didn't find anything except this one cookie :P

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Originally posted by Storyteller what kind of workflow you prefer.

I can't stress this enough. I bought Cubase, and am now selling it 6 months later because I can't handle the workflow - I'm using Reaper instead.

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Originally posted by echosystm I can't stress this enough. I bought Cubase, and am now selling it 6 months later because I can't handle the workflow - I'm using Reaper instead.

wow....looks like an impressive prog.
how do u find the workflow with this???

The Mac Pro is a fine computer. Macs are well-made and have excellent software if you're into media production. If you like Macs, or if you like Logic enough to justify buying a Mac for that sole reason, and you don't mind shelling out at least 50% more coin than you would for an equivalent PC (performance-wise), then by all means, go and get one. Just understand that Apple's marketing, like any marketing, is pretty much bullshit, and that Macs do not "just work" to any greater extent than a PC running Windows XP.

Most Mac fanboys think that Windows users are still living in the year 1999. Windows has been extremely stable since Windows 2000, and I've almost never had a crash or BSOD on XP. Device drivers can be buggy, and so can software, but that's known to happen on the Mac too; Apple and its followers just don't want to admit it.

Vista's got issues with production, but those are back-compat issues. In case any of you might have forgotten, not a single major version of System / Mac OS has been binary compatible with the previous version. (Note: successive releases of OS X are not major versions, they're like SP1 and SP2 for Windows XP). Vista is a brand new, completely redesigned OS; the difference between Vista and XP is like the difference between OS X and OS 9. It's a miracle that the compatibility is as good as it is.

Just understand that the price premium is due to being a niche market, not due to any measurable improvement in performance or stability.

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