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acid lines???

been trying to create acid lines the past few days now and its driving me mad. tried playing about with filters etc and they just sound shit.

im trying to create one similar to the one john askew used in chime. sample [[ LINK REMOVED ]]


thanks

yeah acid is one of the toughest sounds to get sounding good , at least for me anyway. just curious what program do you use?. i use reason and the presets it has were impossible to make and good acid sound, i thought. but i downloaded and bought some refills that give me quite a few sounds similar to the sample you just listened. as for going about making one from scratch i have no fucking idea , sorry . but if you use reason i could piont you in the right direction for refills.


actually this might help. it explained in reason but i think the basic idea would work for any daw?. you might be past this piont alrady but it gave me a general idea of how to make acid. although its not same as the one in the sample you posted. its more a less the classic acid sound.

http://www.computermusic.co.uk/page/computermusic?entry=cm_tutorial_pdfs

oh yeah its in the trance master class 1 , just below the half way mark of the page. good luck

im using cubase sx 3. also have a few popular vsti's and a jp 8000. been trying it with audio realism bassline but it sounds like crap. ive tried using all the functions in audiorealism including distortion just doesnt seem to work. maybe its the pattern.

anyone any examples of their work?

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Originally posted by sterilis im using cubase sx 3. also have a few popular vsti's and a jp 8000. been trying it with audio realism bassline but it sounds like crap. ive tried using all the functions in audiorealism including distortion just doesnt seem to work. maybe its the pattern. anyone any examples of their work?

are you looking for a full range line to be your major instrument or a line that drives trough the background of your track?

Hmm. I'd say a large part of that sound is the fast wah effect placed on it. You could get a similar effect by setting an eq to a fairly chunky boost, with a fairly wide q, then moving the frequency around in time to the song.

But you'd need to get the original sound close for it to sound similar. It's fun, trying to work out how certain sounds were created!

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Originally posted by soundrush are you looking for a full range line to be your major instrument or a line that drives trough the background of your track?

at the minute just something for the background.

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Originally posted by sterilis at the minute just something for the background.

ok. i would suggest to use the 303 teebee preset from vanguard. switch filter to bandpass, move cuttof to 5 Hz. Add a slow cuttof LFO. Add a long delay. Use EQ to cuttof the low frequencies and make it fit into your tune.

Used it on my productions a couple of times with good result.

cheers ill give this a go now. if it turns out shit you'll have to find your version and send me it

oh shit, didnt listen to the askew sample. sounds like some pitch bending on the line and the filter is... dunno maybe abit of formant??

my advice for the acidline was rather basic. hope its usefull anyway.

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Originally posted by sterilis cheers ill give this a go now. if it turns out shit you'll have to find your version and send me it

for sure buddy.

what bank is the teebee in?

Vengeance Factory Soundbank

btw.. you once told me of the bigtone soundbank. that one might have some presets similiar to john`s sound.

do you know of any good patterns to play it in?

heres a short snippet i made.
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used the teebee preset and changed the waveform from square to tri/saw. also bandpass and all the stuff i mentoined before.
the acid pattern looks like this.

Here's my try at it:

clicky

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Originally posted by Honzi Here's my try at it: clicky

So what did you use to make that?

Shucks, I forgot to paste the link to the source


source .flp

Used 3xOsc as a generator, Blood Overdrive as a distortion unit. Then, in order:
-Classic Flanger, to give it some modulation
-Rubber Filter - to cut off low frequencies (I used 100+db/oct hpf here!)
-reverb and delay, to add some space
-EQ and compression.

i couldn't sleep tonight so i thought i'd post a sample really quick. my apologizes for any sound quality issues...i'm on my laptop and i didn't try to master this at all hehe ...

here is an acidy type sound i made real quick in ableton operator. it's really basic, but i thought it might help prove a point.

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this sound is made with a single saw wave with no effects on it at all (you don't need effects to make an acid type sound)

there are a couple of important things though:

portamento and velocity. play around with these controls until you get a chirp you like. really other than that...your note sequencing is what gives it a varied sound and allows the portamento to slide. for instance, once again just keeping it simple, my little sound covers three octaves of C.

of course i'm also changing the cutoff for a low pass filter over the top...


anyway, i don't post much but thought that would be helpful.

Floorfiller, I would greatly appreciate if you could give a few more detail about how you made this sound !

eh...the real secret to acid is in the sequencing

You mean how the artist builds up the tension in his track ?

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Originally posted by palm acid can be very easily done in reason with subtractor, scream, high Q filter with lfo, and eq.

Is there any tutorials out there that talks about this ? I've looked on the master list, without any real success...

yeah the acid sound is easy, basically a nice filter and env mod. probably some portamento and something. add some dirt (distortion and stuff)

but this usually still isnt quite good enough...when you just sequence a melody in 16ths or something in a piano roll, if you compare it to if you had sequenced it on a 303, theres a strange way the sequencer effects the way the envelopes and filters are on hardware.

so basically i suggest adding some subtle envelope automations, and then playing with the midi data a bit to give it a rawer sound. dont have it all quantized well.

this is just my taste in acid though...

some nice acid samples posted. nik ill speak to you on msn. need to speak with you about that sample.

ok so since there seemed to be a little interest in the sound i made...i went ahead and tried to improve it a little trying to emulate the TB-303 accent a little better...

this still is all synthesis...the only effect addition is very slight delay to really just make it sound a little fuller.

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i'm getting ready to go out of town for the weekend to Love Fest, but i'll try and post a little more detail for those interested sometime next week...


ps. still on the laptop with my ipod plugs and all...so sorry if the sound quality is bad.

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