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Posted by Leon on Sep-26-2007 00:33:

Invisible Grin production headphones

So i'm informed the Senn hd25's are the bomb for producing! What do you guys say? I want to buy a pair ey ees ey pee!

Leon


Posted by echosystm on Sep-26-2007 00:42:

No.
They're for DJing.


Posted by Leon on Sep-26-2007 00:47:

shieeet! What's considered the better or best for production and producing a flat sound?


Posted by echosystm on Sep-26-2007 01:00:

Best is subjective.

I personally think AKG240s are pretty good.


Posted by System101 on Sep-26-2007 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Best is subjective.

I personally think AKG240s are pretty good.


240s are the bomb! i love them to death lol


Posted by Leon on Sep-26-2007 01:27:

holy moly, nice pair.. sounds like a weapon AK-G240

I'll for sure check it out beeeeeeyyyiiitch


Posted by 3F05Q on Sep-26-2007 02:36:

I'll secon...wait.. I'll third that. They're comfortable, not harsh, and sturdy.


Posted by harris b on Sep-26-2007 05:32:

damn, i need something good...atm I use logitech speakers, and my onboard soundcard has never outputted bass to my headphones


Posted by Falck on Sep-26-2007 07:35:

AKG K271S, wonderful...


Posted by Storyteller on Sep-26-2007 08:37:

Re: production headphones

quote:
Originally posted by Leon Oziel
So i'm informed the Senn hd25's are the bomb for producing! What do you guys say? I want to buy a pair ey ees ey pee!

Leon


The audio engineers at my university love it.
It's the standard gear recommended to start with, for our school.
Which means I've got them as well, 5 years now. I wouldn't trade them for anything in the world.

They're pretty good. But it's hard to get a good feel of the dynamics imo. So your mixdowns will be quite transparent but some levels will be way off. You'll get used to it along the way though and it will get better .

That and they go insanely loud without popping. Insane as in beep in your ears within few minutes... Really good stuff, just be carefull with that.

If possible, have a look at monitor speakers, which is a better investment in gear . When I bought the sennheiser hd 25 they where 200Euro a piece. Don't know if that's still the case, but if so, you could buy a nice little set of monitors to start out with, with just a few 10-ers more needed!


Posted by echosystm on Sep-26-2007 09:29:

The problem with HD25s is that they're a closed back design. The bass will be very powerful, but not accurate. I guess it has a similar effect as bass ports in monitors vs. a sealed design.


Posted by Storyteller on Sep-26-2007 09:52:

Quite probably. The lower range is exactly where these headphones have some issues indeed. But I don't really had a problem with it personally. Well, 3-5 years ago I did, but now it just works for me.

It's really personal.

Leon, maybe it's possible for you to go to a professional audio gear shop in town? Take some of your fav music with you. Music you know very well. Listen it through the headphones and try to pick those that you think will work for you. Try to take the ones that give the most honest reference of the track.

Or go for the speakers :P


Posted by Tarpex on Sep-26-2007 10:03:

Sennheiser 250-II.
Flat as a football pitch, open design, can use them for hours with no prob...

Probably the AKG's are one ladder step higher, but if $$ is an issue, these will do great!


Posted by System101 on Sep-26-2007 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Tarpex
Sennheiser 250-II.
Flat as a football pitch, open design, can use them for hours with no prob...

Probably the AKG's are one ladder step higher, but if $$ is an issue, these will do great!


The AKGs are definately not THAT expenisve... i picked mine up for $140CAD


Posted by Eldritch on Sep-26-2007 17:19:

I agree on the AKG k240s.
They have a flat and detailed sound. They're VERY comfortable, perfect for long sessions. I can achieve a very nice sounding mixdown without even using my monitors. Although this has much to do with that I know these headphones very well.

I wouldn't recommend the AKG k271s, even though they're a more "advanced" model, the fact that they're closed back make them less suitable for monitoring.


Posted by RickyM on Sep-26-2007 19:43:

Get monitors for mixing...headphones are pretty useless for doing bass properly...I would only use headphones initially, but would never use them towards the end of the song, when I'm trying to mix it properly.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Sep-26-2007 19:50:

i did a lot of research and ended up buying the AKG 171's after demoing a bunch at a local hardware shop. All of the AKG models sounded really good but the 171 took to me the most.


Posted by Shade on Sep-26-2007 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
Get monitors for mixing...headphones are pretty useless for doing bass properly...I would only use headphones initially, but would never use them towards the end of the song, when I'm trying to mix it properly.

+1

Headphones are handy to be able to *really* tell if your sounds are clean though. I have a pair of Beyerdynamic DT770 headphones which work flawlessly


Posted by System101 on Sep-26-2007 20:48:

AKG240 is the way to go if you're serious about music production.


Posted by vccv on Sep-26-2007 21:30:

Im in love with my new AKG K701


Posted by RickyM on Sep-26-2007 21:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
+1

Headphones are handy to be able to *really* tell if your sounds are clean though. I have a pair of Beyerdynamic DT770 headphones which work flawlessly


Yeah I notice that something that I make that I like the sound of on my mackies, usually sounds really great on my Headphones (crappy technics DJ headphones)...it never works like that the other way round though


Posted by derail on Sep-26-2007 22:28:

I have to second that. If I get the mix sounding good in my monitors it'll sound good in my headphones, but not generally the other way around. I like headphones for composing and putting the original sounds together, but then it's always an eye opener when I throw the mix out to the monitors. I don't generally do much eqing before the mix hits the monitors, invariably there'll be a sound which comes through fine in the headphones which doesn't really cut through at all in the room. That's just my personal experience though.


Posted by 3F05Q on Sep-26-2007 22:39:

I've found headphones good for frequency range placement and detail in the low end. Perhaps that's a result of poor room acoustics. They'll skew your perception of stereo placement however. Doing some EQ adjustments in mono with headphones has aided my productions.


Posted by Leon on Sep-30-2007 00:31:

wewt, thanks for the feedback



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