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Exercise usually doesn't make people thinner

Or at least that's what this article ends up concluding:

http://nymag.com/news/sports/38001/

COR Version: Increased calorie expenditure (from exercise) leads to increased calorie consumption. Whatever weight you burn off in a session of exercise, you probably regain by eating more food. One of the studies cited found that unfit people who trained to run a marathon ultimately lost very little weight. Also, the primary way your body regulates fat storage is insulin, which means that insulin-boosting foods like bread, sugar, etc. are probably what make you fat.

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If it�s biology, and not a lack of willpower, that explains why exercise fails so many of us as a weight-loss tool, then we can still find reason for optimism. Since insulin is the primary hormone affecting the activity of LPL on our cells, it�s not surprising that insulin is the primary regulator of how fat we get. �Fat is mobilized [from fat tissue] when insulin secretion diminishes,� the American Medical Association Council on Foods and Nutrition explained back in 1974, before this fact, too, was deemed irrelevant to the question of why we gain weight or the means to lose it. Because insulin determines fat accumulation, it�s quite possible that we get fat not because we eat too much or exercise too little but because we secrete too much insulin or because our insulin levels remain elevated far longer than might be ideal. To be sure, this is the same logic that leads to other unconventional ideas. As it turns out, it�s carbohydrates�particularly easily digestible carbohydrates and sugars�that primarily stimulate insulin secretion. �Carbohydrates is driving insulin is driving fat,� as George Cahill Jr., a retired Harvard professor of medicine and expert on insulin, recently phrased it for me. So maybe if we eat fewer carbohydrates�in particular the easily digestible simple carbohydrates and sugars�we might lose considerable fat or at least not gain any more, whether we exercise or not. This would explain the slew of recent clinical trials demonstrating that dieters who restrict carbohydrates but not calories invariably lose more weight than dieters who restrict calories but not necessarily carbohydrates. Put simply, it�s quite possible that the foods�potatoes, pasta, rice, bread, pastries, sweets, soda, and beer�that our parents always thought were fattening (back when the medical specialists treating obesity believed that exercise made us hungry) really are fattening. And so if we avoid these foods specifically, we may find our weights more in line with our desires.

Discuss!

you don't work out to eat right, you eat right to work out

In my opinion, people are not fat because they don't exercise enough. It's because they eat too much.

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Originally posted by get nyce you don't work out to eat right, you eat right to work out

That's the basic idea here. It's not that people who don't work out get fat and tired, it's that people who are fat and tired because of their diets tend not to work out.

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Originally posted by Ygrene In my opinion, people are not fat because they don't exercise enough. It's because they eat too much of the wrong crap.

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Originally posted by Boomer187

Reese's?

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Originally posted by Ygrene Reese's?

nevar!

It's all about what you eat, not the ammount. I used to be crazy addicted to bread and bread-derivatives. I'd have at least some form of it at every meal, sometimes two, and in between. When I stopped I lost like 20 pounds.

Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwichs > working out.

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Originally posted by Project-K It's all about what you eat, not the ammount. I used to be crazy addicted to bread and bread-derivatives. I'd have at least some form of it at every meal, sometimes two, and in between. When I stopped I lost like 20 pounds.

actually i've found it to be the opposite where portion control is the main objective to your diet allowing you eat whatever you please just in certain portions. Also allows you to eat multiple times during the day to keep that metabolism running, just in smaller portions. and of course the practice of substituting certain foods/breads for a more healthier choice

Zone Diet

Re: Re: Exercise usually doesn't make people thinner

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Originally posted by josh4 its always lazy fucks looking for excuses not to make changes to their unhealthy lifestyle.

Actually, the article does recommend a change in lifestyle: eating foods that don't boost insulin production as much as things like breads and sugars.

In my own case, I was fat in seventh grade. I joined a competitive swimming program and lost weight, which tempts me to attribute my fat loss to the exercise. But as I started swimming, I also stopped drinking soft drinks and stopped gorging myself on worthless carbs like potato chips and pretzels, so it's hard to say what did the trick.

It is worth pointing out at this point that exercise can make you healthier even though, absent a change in diet, it may not make you much thinner. It improves lipid profile, energy level, restfulness of sleep, and insulin response.

dont eat.

this article is right on target... exercise won't help you lose weight.

Weight loss occurs in the kitchen, not in the gym.

exercise alone isn't supposed to make you thin. people are chubbers because they eat badly, eat too much and are lazy. Or two of the three.

Exercise can be the key to make you thinner, it worked pretty damn well for me - but you can't eat like a pig.

Things went like this.. I started to slightly improve my diet several months ago step by step.. a little less amount of everything, less cookies and sugary stuff, more fruit, soda replaced by water. I started losing a bit of weight, but not really a lot. By this time I didn't make any exercise at all. Lost maybe 5 kg at most in about 5 months.

The summer holidays came up, I started having lots more time to exercise.. started going to the beach, regularly playing beach soccer and beach volleyball almost every day, occasionally playing some outdoor 5-a-side soccer as well. Most importantly, I entered the gym, lots of cardio 2 times a week, some weight exercises as well. During this period, all this naturally pushed me to keep on improving my diet a little bit - but the changes in the exercising amount were much more radical than the changes in the diet.

Result? Lost 10 kg in this period of about 3 months, and now I feel like I don't need to lose any more weight, only maybe trade a little fat for muscular mass.

I know things can vary from person to person, but my personal experience leads me to think that exercising can be absolutely key to getting thinner. Not to underestimate the value of eating healthy.

Daily exercise and a healthy meal plan go hand in hand. Cut out heavily refined foods and you're well on your way to living a healthier life.

how about drinking juice instead of soda. also doesn't exercise help your metabolism or not really?

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Originally posted by hadi ****** also doesn't exercise help your metabolism or not really?

It will rev up your metabolism. But revving up your metabolism typically makes you want to eat more, and many people do eat more once they start exercising.

low bodyfat percentage is correlated with a high metabolism.. thus the lower your body fat the higher your metabolism and your caolorie consumption must go up in order to maintain your weight.


So fatter people have to eat less to lose or maintain their weight

Skinnier people have to eat more to gain or maintain their weight


this is obviously with respect to their body weight.





So you should overestimate your calorie consumption if your fat (whatever is on the food label probably add about 5 to 10 % or so because your body will metabolize it slower.)

and underestimate your calorie consumption if your trying to gain weight.

cardio vascular excercise simply creates a calorie deficit

I'm hungry non stop. Skinny people have it the worst, we are always hungry and we have to spend more on food to keep from shrinking into nothing.

I went on atkins and lost about 20Lbs in 2 months, without going to gym. Meanwhile, while working out 3 - 5 times a week few years ago, resulted in same losses after about 4 months. Now, it's a possibilty I was gaining muscle mass as weight was being lost, but fact nonetheless.

Once, I had a fight with my x-gf and in the process went nuts on fitness. Lost 35lbs in one month. People didn't recognize me, my clothes were as loose as sh!t in Jenna Jameson's bumhole, I felt great. Then we made up, I went back to "placid" lifestyle, gained it all back with interest in no time.

sucks. thanks for the article, if nothing else, it inspired me to at least start thinking about my food choices. (seriously)

This thread inspired me to cook a 12 oz Filet Mignon.

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Originally posted by getfoul I'm hungry non stop. Skinny people have it the worst, we are always hungry and we have to spend more on food to keep from shrinking into nothing.

u make me sick

Why can't I lose weight

*drinks soda*

...

one soda can't hurt can it?

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