TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Political Discussion / Debate
-- Iran's Parliament Signs Resolution to Label CIA, Army as 'Terrorist Organizations'
Pages (5): [1] 2 3 4 5 »

Iran's Parliament Signs Resolution to Label CIA, Army as 'Terrorist Organizations'

TEHRAN, Iran � Iran's parliament on Saturday approved a nonbinding resolution labeling the CIA and the U.S. Army "terrorist organizations," in apparent response to a Senate resolution seeking to give a similar designation to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

The hard-line dominated parliament cited U.S. involvement in dropping nuclear bombs in Japan in World War II, using depleted uranium munitions in the Balkans, Afghanistan and Iraq, supporting the killings of Palestinians by Israel, bombing and killing Iraqi civilians, and torturing terror suspects in prisons.

"The aggressor U.S. Army and the Central Intelligence Agency are terrorists and also nurture terror," said a statement by the 215 lawmakers who signed the resolution at an open session of the Iranian parliament. The session was broadcast live on state-run radio.

The resolution, which is seen as a diplomatic offensive against the U.S., urges Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's government to treat the two as terrorist organizations. It also paves the way for the resolution to become legislation that � if ratified by the country's hardline constitutional watchdog � would become law. The government is expected to wait for U.S. reaction before making its decision.

On Wednesday, the Senate voted 76-22 in favor of a resolution urging the State Department to designate Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization. While the proposal attracted overwhelming bipartisan support, a small group of Democrats said they feared labeling the state-sponsored organization a terrorist group could be interpreted as a congressional authorization of military force in Iran.

The Bush administration had already been considering whether to blacklist an elite unit within the Revolutionary Guard, subjecting part of the vast military operation to financial sanctions.

The U.S. legislative push came a day after Ahmadinejad told world leaders at the U.N. General Assembly that his country would defy attempts to impose new sanctions by "arrogant powers" seeking to curb its nuclear program, accusing them of lying and imposing illegal penalties on his country.

He said the nuclear issue was now "closed" as a political issue and Iran would pursue the monitoring of its nuclear program "through its appropriate legal path," the International Atomic Energy Agency, which is the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog.

Tensions between the U.S. and Iran have escalated over Washington accusations that Iran is secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons and has been supplying Shiite militias in Iraq with deadly weapons used to kill U.S. troops. Iran denies both of the allegations.

Source

Haha, if this escalation between the two sides recently weren't so precipitous, this would actually be quite funny!

quote:

Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Haha, if this escalation between the two sides recently weren't so precipitous, this would actually be quite funny!

This is not funny! Our brave and men and women are not terrorist. We have the finest and the most professional military men in the world.

Clearly we are not terrorists, the US has all the right to label the Quods as a terrorist organization. These thugs train Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups.

quote:

Originally posted by LatinLover This is not funny! Our brave and men and women are not terrorist. We have the finest and the most professional military men in the world. Clearly we are not terrorists, the US has all the right to label the Quods as a terrorist organization. These thugs train Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups.

It's funny (ironic) because a. we called them a terrorist organization, and now they're calling us terrorists and b. their allegations (depleted uranium shells, etc.) are pretty much true.

And for a long time, the CIA practiced political assassination. If the Iranian Guard were to assassinate Sarkozy next month, the whole world would call it a terrorist act, and yet the CIA was always immune to the criticism. In their own sick and twisted way, Iran is just drawing attention to that.

Re: Iran's Parliament Signs Resolution to Label CIA, Army as 'Terrorist Organizations

quote:

Originally posted by LatinLover TEHRAN, Iran � Iran's parliament on Saturday approved a nonbinding resolution labeling the CIA and the U.S. Army "terrorist organizations," in apparent response to a Senate resolution seeking to give a similar designation to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. The hard-line dominated parliament cited U.S. involvement in dropping nuclear bombs in Japan in World War II, using depleted uranium munitions in the Balkans, Afghanistan and Iraq, supporting the killings of Palestinians by Israel, bombing and killing Iraqi civilians, and torturing terror suspects in prisons. "The aggressor U.S. Army and the Central Intelligence Agency are terrorists and also nurture terror," said a statement by the 215 lawmakers who signed the resolution at an open session of the Iranian parliament. The session was broadcast live on state-run radio. The resolution, which is seen as a diplomatic offensive against the U.S., urges Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's government to treat the two as terrorist organizations. It also paves the way for the resolution to become legislation that � if ratified by the country's hardline constitutional watchdog � would become law. The government is expected to wait for U.S. reaction before making its decision. On Wednesday, the Senate voted 76-22 in favor of a resolution urging the State Department to designate Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization. While the proposal attracted overwhelming bipartisan support, a small group of Democrats said they feared labeling the state-sponsored organization a terrorist group could be interpreted as a congressional authorization of military force in Iran. The Bush administration had already been considering whether to blacklist an elite unit within the Revolutionary Guard, subjecting part of the vast military operation to financial sanctions. The U.S. legislative push came a day after Ahmadinejad told world leaders at the U.N. General Assembly that his country would defy attempts to impose new sanctions by "arrogant powers" seeking to curb its nuclear program, accusing them of lying and imposing illegal penalties on his country. He said the nuclear issue was now "closed" as a political issue and Iran would pursue the monitoring of its nuclear program "through its appropriate legal path," the International Atomic Energy Agency, which is the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog. Tensions between the U.S. and Iran have escalated over Washington accusations that Iran is secretly trying to develop nuclear weapons and has been supplying Shiite militias in Iraq with deadly weapons used to kill U.S. troops. Iran denies both of the allegations. Source

Greaaat. This article came out of the neocon shit hole fox news, owned by Rupert Murdoch..Hardly a bastion of objective journalism..

Anyways...

I love how they label the Iranian parliament hardline.. I guess if they don't agree with the US agenda, they must be hardline right? Bush needs to read up on the UN Charter in sovereignty and SELF-DETERMINATION!!

The Iranian parliament is elected to 4 year terms by popular elections. They have a right to be hardline toward commercial imperialism just as the US is hardline against opposition to its commercial interests.

I would like to see evidence that Iranian Revolutionary Guard was involved in terrorist / terrorist trainign activity ... until then I dont see why it was appropriate to label it such, and this Iranian rebuttal is no big deal. Iranian law to label CIA/US army terrorist is of little consequence, there's plenty of propaganda on Iranian television already ... and some of it is sadly true. Americans should have weighed in the consequences and benefits vs. disadvantages of passing their law first. It will not make the Middle East a more peaceful and more stable region.

The only reason it makes sense that Americans did their thing first is in anticipation of an upcoming military operation to overthrow Iranian regime, so that handling of Iranian officials would be much easier. But, history has shown that American-led coups most of the time never lead to better times years ahead down the road (the reason for current Iranian "problem").

+1 for this move, I think Iran Parliament should label whole USA as an 'Axis of Evil', hell of earth that spreads only death and destruction of innocent civilians, and label US Army as an terrorist organisation. USA is a terrorist nation which wants blood of all muslims on this earth and total destruction of Middle East (Exception: Israel).

quote:

Originally posted by Purple +1 for this move, I think Iran Parliament should label whole USA as an 'Axis of Evil', hell of earth that spreads only death and destruction of innocent civilians, and label US Army as an terrorist organisation. USA is a terrorist nation which wants blood of all muslims on this earth and total destruction of Middle East (Exception: Israel).

I don't disagree with your sentiment that the US has done some things that I'm certainly not proud of, but I think that's going a little bit far.

quote:

Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I don't disagree with your sentiment that the US has done some things that I'm certainly not proud of, but I think that's going a little bit far.

Ya, I agree with you, I exagerated the situation.. just like US did after 9/11.

quote:

Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I don't disagree with your sentiment that the US has done some things that I'm certainly not proud of, but I think that's going a little bit far.

Just a wee bit..

There is no axis of evil existing between any nations. The Bush Admin and its benefactors are the axis of evil..

quote:

Originally posted by Purple USA is a terrorist nation which wants blood of all muslims on this earth and total destruction of Middle East

Is this the part where Borat comes in and tells you that his sister is the number 4 prostitue in all of Kazakhstan?

quote:

Originally posted by CHRles Is this the part where Borat comes in and tells you that his sister is the number 4 prostitue in all of Kazakhstan?

Nopes, its the part where Borat sings Kazak's national anthem in American Anthem tune..

quote:

Originally posted by CHRles Is this the part where Borat comes in and tells you that his sister is the number 4 prostitue in all of Kazakhstan?

Hey, Kazakhstan actually had some groundbreaking democratic reforms recently, and hardly noticed by the Western media.

quote:

Originally posted by Magnetonium Hey, Kazakhstan actually had some groundbreaking democratic reforms recently, and hardly noticed by the Western media.

Does 'democratic' reforms only mean everything? Why cant a country be socialist or autocratic or fundamentally relegious if its people wants so and demand the same respect?

quote:

Originally posted by Purple Does 'democratic' reforms only mean everything? Why cant a country be socialist or autocratic or fundamentally relegious if its people wants so and demand the same respect?

Why would you think the Kazakhstan people and the parliament would pass those amendments then by a majority and Nazarbayev receiving praises from such human rights watchdogs as Radio Free Europe?

quote:

Originally posted by Magnetonium Why would you think the Kazakhstan people and the parliament would pass those amendments then by a majority and Nazarbayev receiving praises from such human rights watchdogs as Radio Free Europe?

I am not refering to Kazak, but countries like Iran and Iraq who are frowned upon even when their own people dont want democracy and chose Saddam as their hero (majority) and slightly autocratic relegious system in Iran which its own people vote for.. why would world force them to be democratic when they dont want that system? Its basicly is the same through out Middle East.. Democracy is not that popular in Middle East and Africa as people think of it..

quote:

Originally posted by Purple Does 'democratic' reforms only mean everything? Why cant a country be socialist or autocratic or fundamentally relegious if its people wants so and demand the same respect?

Autocracy means all the power is in the hands of one individual, which usually translates into a dictator. North Korea is the perfect example.

A fundamentally religious government is vastly different from a country whose people are deeply religious. Let me give you some for instances: A fundamentally Catholic government comes to power in France - what do you think would happen to the 10 percent of the population that is Muslim? Or a fundamentally religious Hindu government forms in India - what happens to the 15 percent of the population that is Muslim?

quote:

Originally posted by Purple I am not refering to Kazak, but countries like Iran and Iraq who are frowned upon even when their own people dont want democracy and chose Saddam as their hero (majority)

Their hero? Is that how the Kurds would describe him? Is that how the Shiites in Iraq, who are the majority of the population, would describe him? Is that how all Sunnis in Iraq described him?

quote:

Originally posted by LatinLover This is not funny! Our brave and men and women are not terrorist. We have the finest and the most professional military men in the world. Clearly we are not terrorists, the US has all the right to label the Quods as a terrorist organization. These thugs train Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups.

quote:

Originally posted by CHRles Their hero? Is that how the Kurds would describe him? Is that how the Shiites in Iraq, who are the majority of the population, would describe him? Is that how all Sunnis in Iraq described him?

Hey comooooon.. I am just using the US theory.. thats is ..

1. If you dont like USA than its = you are a terrorist..

2. If being an Iraqi you dont like USA and confront them than thats = you are ex-Sadddam's men who should be shot dead or hanged or killed..

And clearly majority of Iraqi dont like US.. so thats = majority like Saddam and are loyal to him.

quote:

Originally posted by CHRles Autocracy means all the power is in the hands of one individual, which usually translates into a dictator. North Korea is the perfect example.

NK is not exactly a perfect example of autocracy, I will give you a perfect example of autocracy.. :

And that is Saudi Arabia, which is literally run by its Saudi king, this one man runs the whole country and its prefect for them.. they want it that way..

quote:

Originally posted by CHRles A fundamentally religious government is vastly different from a country whose people are deeply religious. Let me give you some for instances: A fundamentally Catholic government comes to power in France - what do you think would happen to the 10 percent of the population that is Muslim? Or a fundamentally religious Hindu government forms in India - what happens to the 15 percent of the population that is Muslim?

You agree that Iran is somewhat a fundamentally religious government right? Do you know that their are many Christians living peacfully a happy life in Iran?

Saudi Arabia is more of a monrachy like Oman, isn't it?

I know countries like Jordan, Bahrain, quatar, and the UAE are moanrchies as well, though more of a consitutional monarchy rather then an absolute one.

Saudi Arabia is a more religious country then some of the other Middle Eastern countries I've mentioned, though the royal family isn't particularly religious. That's why you always read about them going to places like Vegas...

quote:

Originally posted by Purple You agree that Iran is somewhat a fundamentally religious government right? Do you know that their are many Christians living peacfully a happy life in Iran?

I know there are Christians, Jews, and Bahaii in Iran, and they're allowed to practive their religion, but what do you base this happy life mantra on?

quote:

Originally posted by CHRles I know there are Christians, Jews, and Bahaii in Iran, and they're allowed to practive their religion, but what do you base this happy life mantra on?

You mean they are opressed and tortured and frowned and raped in Iran because they are Christians, Jews, and Bahaii?

quote:

Originally posted by CHRles Saudi Arabia is more of a monrachy like Oman, isn't it? I know countries like Jordan, Bahrain, quatar, and the UAE are moanrchies as well, though more of a consitutional monarchy rather then an absolute one. Saudi Arabia is a more religious country then some of the other Middle Eastern countries I've mentioned, though the royal family isn't particularly religious. That's why you always read about them going to places like Vegas...

Whats the difference between monarchy and autocracy? One is called king and other is called dictator by western world .. its one man show in both..

Purple, do you mind if I start a new thread about Saudi Arabia, and my take on the rulers of that country?

quote:

Originally posted by CHRles Purple, do you mind if I start a new thread about Saudi Arabia, and my take on the rulers of that country?

Self-determination states a country has the right to develop its own culture, government, social structures, and society. So what gives you the right to tell Saudis how they should conduct their themselves, especially when you are coming from a biased western point of view?

In addition to that, you don't even know that the reason there is a Saudi theological monarchy is SPECIFICALLY because the US needs Saudi oil, which is the country with the #1 reserve of proven oil reserve in the world. The US in other words, supports the Saudi regime..

So any thread about your critique of their culture, government, or whatever is pointless...

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.