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Posted by mezzir on Sep-30-2007 02:02:

Question Recommend me a midi controller!

I'm gonna be in the market soon, and I want to start asking around now. Looking for something ideally 88 keys, or something close to it, and as close to the feel of real piano keys as possible (idk the difference between weighted and semi-weighted). But yeah, I write solo piano pieces once in a while and ideally it'd be nice to be able to play them in full instead of just scripting it out.

So yeah, anyone got any recommendations? Oh and for budget...idk, <$300 if possible?


Posted by echosystm on Sep-30-2007 02:12:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--MDOKEYSTAT88

This is probably as cheap as they get, if you want proper hammer action. Stay away from the CME UF series, the drivers are a mess.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Sep-30-2007 09:22:

remote sl... best midi controller on the market


Posted by glsmaster on Sep-30-2007 17:51:

Try to find out (if there exist yet) something from M-AUDIO. In my opinion is the best choice if you are looking for a budget & quality at the same time.

I tried first with Radium 49 (in its time), but now I think is discontinued, I think that M-Audio Oxygen line is a perfect piece to begin.

But I really recommend that you keep some extra money, the price difference between Oxygen line & Axion line... really worth it.

Cheers!


Posted by mezzir on Sep-30-2007 19:27:

quote:
Originally posted by glsmaster
Try to find out (if there exist yet) something from M-AUDIO. In my opinion is the best choice if you are looking for a budget & quality at the same time.

I tried first with Radium 49 (in its time), but now I think is discontinued, I think that M-Audio Oxygen line is a perfect piece to begin.

But I really recommend that you keep some extra money, the price difference between Oxygen line & Axion line... really worth it.

Cheers!

looked around and the one complaint i saw across the board was the feel of the keys, and ideally i'd like something as close to a real piano as possible

heard anything about m-audio keystation?



i mean, i don't need lots of knobs and shit, just a buncha keys that feel pretty realistic


Posted by Zombie0729 on Sep-30-2007 19:39:

my remote has the best feeling keys(and aftertouch) on any midi controller i've ever played with. remember though, the remote has auto map... so when you load your favorite VST, ie Albino, all of albino's controls get mapped to those knobs, sliders, encoders for you... so now your midi controller just became a hardware synth


Posted by farris on Sep-30-2007 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
remote sl... best midi controller on the market

Which version do you have Anthony? I've been looking into buying one for a while now.
Might pick one up soon. From what I've seen they look great. Might get the ZeRo version or the 25 SL and sell the controller I have now.
How big are they actually? Sorry to hijack btw.

- farris


Posted by I<3acid on Sep-30-2007 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
looked around and the one complaint i saw across the board was the feel of the keys, and ideally i'd like something as close to a real piano as possible

heard anything about m-audio keystation?



i mean, i don't need lots of knobs and shit, just a buncha keys that feel pretty realistic

this feels like a piano


Posted by mezzir on Sep-30-2007 20:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
my remote has the best feeling keys(and aftertouch) on any midi controller i've ever played with. remember though, the remote has auto map... so when you load your favorite VST, ie Albino, all of albino's controls get mapped to those knobs, sliders, encoders for you... so now your midi controller just became a hardware synth

oh shit

how much would a 61 key version cost?


Posted by Zombie0729 on Sep-30-2007 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by farris
Which version do you have Anthony? I've been looking into buying one for a while now.
Might pick one up soon. From what I've seen they look great. Might get the ZeRo version or the 25 SL and sell the controller I have now.
How big are they actually? Sorry to hijack btw.

- farris


hi farris,

i have the 25sl and use it for all my live shows. here it is after i opened for cosmic gate:

[IMG]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t81/dj/CIMG0549.jpg[/IMG]

and here it is in my studio:

[IMG]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t81/dj/CIMG0589.jpg[/IMG]


Posted by glsmaster on Sep-30-2007 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
heard anything about m-audio keystation?


Yeah sure... is the same thing than Radium & Oxygen... but without the knobs & sliders.

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
i mean, i don't need lots of knobs and shit, just a buncha keys that feel pretty realistic


Dude... believe me... you really will need it if you are planning to experiment a least a little bit with any DAW.

Cheers!


Posted by farris on Sep-30-2007 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
hi farris,

pic1
pic2

Great pics! Got a fairly good idea now how big it is, seeing it against other equipment and of course someone using it. Thanks .

- farris


Posted by echosystm on Sep-30-2007 22:47:

If you want it to be as close to a real piano feel as possible, you generally want hammer action. The cheapest keyboards with hammer action are the Keystation 88PRO (which I already showed you) or the CME UF8. The CME UF6/7 and Keystation 88ES do NOT have hammer action, they are just normal semi-weighted keys.

That said, they are cheap. I believe any semi-weighted Novation keyboard feels more like a real piano than a cheap hammer action one. Novation are generally said to be the best feeling keys in the business.

CME controllers are crap. They are cheap for a reason; the drivers suck balls (the device disconnects constantly) and havent been updated for years, the keys are stiff. The CME keys feel nothing like a real piano, and take serious effort to push down. The M-Audio Keystation 88PRO is quite ok though. The Keystation 88ES just feels a tiny bit better than a normal synth action keyboard.

Maybe you should go and try them all yourself?



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