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Is it ok?

Recently I read an article that proposed this idea for the medical future- If a woman has given birth to a baby with severe crippling or other conditions such as Cerebral Palsy, the woman should have the right to chose to have the child's life ended. This would be after the baby's birth, therefore no longer considered an abortion. What do you think?

Discuss.

Nah. The line for appropriate abortions is already too blurred.

Besides, it'd never get passed.

Who cares about the terminology? You're still ending a humans life one way or another.


Solution: Don't have babies.

Only if the baby is killed by microwave then eaten.

From a purely Darwinian aspect, yes, that would be beneficial to the human species. Though rooting out genetic defects to produce a perfect human species (Hitleresque sounding now) would be more than a quixotic adventure.

Suffice it to say, cripples can live fulfilling lives. They could even get computers to make them masturtron. How neat it that?

for every illness we don't have a cure right now, science is working hard to find one. the child has a right to live and get a treatment for his illness.

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Originally posted by Enigmatik Recently I read an article that proposed this idea for the medical future- If a woman has given birth to a baby with severe crippling or other conditions such as Cerebral Palsy, the woman should have the right to chose to have the child's life ended. This would be after the baby's birth, therefore no longer considered an abortion. What do you think?

Cerebral palsy is not a disorder I would call "severely crippling." Those who have it are not usually retarded (about 30% -- and the retardation is comorbid, not actually caused by the palsy), and in fact I knew a guy with CP who was extremely smart. It does reduce movement, but I would not put it in the same category as things like Lesch-Nyhan syndrome or cystic fibrosis, and I certainly would not support terminating an infant or even a late term fetus due to a child having CP.

inb4Theresa

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I don't have a problem with it, but strikes me as being on philosophically weaker ground than abortion itself, so what's the point?

what kind of woman r u??

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Originally posted by wotyzoid what kind of woman r u??

Are you talking to me?

youd have mothers killing the next steven hawking

i like how men are still not mentioned. i thought it took 2 people to make a baby/

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Originally posted by I<3acid youd have mothers killing the next steven hawking

FYI, Stephan Hawking was not a born with Lou Gehrig's disease.

I think parents should have the right to decide wether they want the responsibility of taking care of a person born with such conditions or not.

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Originally posted by woscar99 I think parents should have the right to decide wether they want the responsibility of taking care of a person born with such conditions or not.

but not the right to take the child's life.

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Originally posted by Frenchie inb4Theresa

I lolled.

As much as I am an advocate for a persons right to abort, I don't think this is right.

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Originally posted by Theresa I lolled. As much as I am an advocate for a persons right to abort, I don't think this is right.

so once you can see the baby for yourself, it automatically becomes a higher life form than a fetus? and more worthy to live?

this is the sort of mentality that makes people who would never be able to hunt or kill an animal for themselves feel ok with eating meat.

cover your eyyyesssss



as for me personally, i believe that parents should be able to end their childrens lives whenever they see fit. as long as they do it themselves.

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Originally posted by I<3acid so once you can see the baby for yourself, it automatically becomes a higher life form than a fetus? and more worthy to live? this is the sort of mentality that makes people who would never be able to hunt or kill an animal for themselves feel ok with eating meat. cover your eyyyesssss

No not at all, but thank you for ASSuming.

I think there is a certain stage in which the conception is not a living life form to be "killed".

*sigh*

If you are interested in reading what my opinion is in regard to this topic, you can feel free to do a search for it... because it has been discussed in great length before. To be frank, I can't be arsed to argue about it again.

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Originally posted by jupiterone Who cares about the terminology? You're still ending a humans life one way or another. Solution: Don't have babies.

what is your definition of human? a coupl eof cells with no cognitive ability?

i often wondered what i would do if i had a severly disabled baby.. but after having a baby i know i would keep it because it would still be a piece of me and to discard that would be a terrible mistake.

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Originally posted by Theresa I think there is a certain stage in which the conception is not a living life form to be "killed".

obviously you have no idea what it means to be alive.
sperm are alive. germs are alive.
they can all be killed.

but i understand people like you can only feel empathy for things they can see, communicate, and relate to.

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Originally posted by wienerschnitzel i often wondered what i would do if i had a severly disabled baby.. but after having a baby i know i would keep it because it would still be a piece of me and to discard that would be a terrible mistake.

who will take care of him once you are gone? will his life be fulfilling or full of challenges (unwanted ones)... its a difficult subject with no correct answer. truly scary to think politicians are making these sort of decisions, but i guess someone needs to.

this topic seems too serious for the CORe

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Originally posted by I<3acid obviously you have no idea what it means to be alive. sperm are alive. germs are alive. they can all be killed. but i understand people like you can only feel empathy for things they can see, communicate, and relate to.

Yes yes... I am an evil baby killer.

BABY KILLER!!!!

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Originally posted by Theresa Yes yes... I am an evil baby killer. BABY KILLER!!!!

youve had an abortion? im not very interested.

im more interested in what you define as "a living creature". if a fetus is not a living creature, then how does it grow?

youre aware plants are living too? i never said i was for or against abortion. infact i said parents should be able to kill their kids whenever they want.

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