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Posted by damnuok on Oct-02-2007 17:33:

How many Tracks & Instruments do you use?

Dunno if this has been already asked or not...but it seems interesting.

how tracks do you usually use ? and how many instruments? and do you know how many do famous producers use?

I usually use between 30~50... it rly depends...if it's a complex track or not etc...


Posted by Zombie0729 on Oct-02-2007 17:37:

hard to say, with instrument racks and how much i bounce, i can't really line up on a number. the smallest probably 20 the largest probably 60.


Posted by camsr on Oct-02-2007 17:41:

one bass.
one pad.
samples for leads
samples for drums.
and i fart in the mike for sound effect.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-02-2007 17:51:

5 to 60.

I don't really see where this is going.


Posted by Derivative on Oct-02-2007 18:46:

fuck you guys mix using alot of tracks. I've never used more than 20. Most of the time its around 10. And I reckon I could still economise and use less, like I did when I had a 4 track.


Posted by RichieV on Oct-02-2007 23:12:

usually 2000 to 4000


Posted by echosystm on Oct-03-2007 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
fuck you guys mix using alot of tracks. I've never used more than 20. Most of the time its around 10. And I reckon I could still economise and use less, like I did when I had a 4 track.


o_O

I'd usually use like 15 mono, 5 stereo, outs from battery alone rofel.


Posted by d4dirty on Oct-03-2007 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
fuck you guys mix using alot of tracks. I've never used more than 20. Most of the time its around 10. And I reckon I could still economise and use less, like I did when I had a 4 track.


I'm with you.. no more then 20 and always try to simplify. How the hell can you keep track of 30-40 tracks? why? I mean, what is on each track?


Posted by Subtle on Oct-03-2007 02:07:

In my latest remix im doing i have currently have 54 tracks, which whom 16 is muted.

But it all depens on type of track, length.. amount of loops and single samples etc.. also how you work, some like to have all their drums in one channel in MIDI, while i have all perc tracks separate from each other.


Posted by derail on Oct-03-2007 02:09:

The number of final audio tracks doesn't tell the complete story. Some producers may have every single element on separate tracks, others may combine a heap of elements on a single track. As long as the producer can maintain an overview and their method isn't slowing them down, anything goes.

My pieces currently average 10 to 20 tracks...I used to be up around 40-50...it'd be interesting going back to some of those old tracks and remixing them, seeing how I'd approach them now...

Some awesome producers generally use 40-60 tracks, some generally use 10. You should use as many as the piece (and your method) requires.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-03-2007 02:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
fuck you guys mix using alot of tracks. I've never used more than 20. Most of the time its around 10. And I reckon I could still economise and use less, like I did when I had a 4 track.

I separate all my percs to different tracks, so it's not very hard to go to 60 or over. And then of course there are the automation tracks...


Posted by kitphillips on Oct-03-2007 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by derail
The number of final audio tracks doesn't tell the complete story. Some producers may have every single element on separate tracks, others may combine a heap of elements on a single track. As long as the producer can maintain an overview and their method isn't slowing them down, anything goes.

My pieces currently average 10 to 20 tracks...I used to be up around 40-50...it'd be interesting going back to some of those old tracks and remixing them, seeing how I'd approach them now...

Some awesome producers generally use 40-60 tracks, some generally use 10. You should use as many as the piece (and your method) requires.


Thank god I'm not the only one! I don't ever really exceed 15 tracks, and I get great pleasure from working with a 2-3 track project. But if people have got each drum on a seperate channel + more channels for automation then I can see how it could get to 50 tracks, if I did that I'd be up at 40 easily...


Posted by T-Soma on Oct-03-2007 07:34:

With this current computer it usually stays under the 15 mark.
Small screen and slow computer not fun for big projects


Posted by richg101 on Oct-03-2007 08:52:

about 25. including midi, audio and vst instraments. then about 3-5 efx per audio/instrament and a few automations per track.


Posted by G-Con on Oct-03-2007 09:05:

Would the sequencer you use have a big impact on how many tracks you use? I use Ableton so I can have the midi, the synth, the FX for that synth and the automation all on the one track.

Am I right in thinking that in Cubase for example you have seperate tracks for each of these things?


Posted by Storyteller on Oct-03-2007 09:13:

About 20.


Posted by thecYrus on Oct-03-2007 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Am I right in thinking that in Cubase for example you have seperate tracks for each of these things?


no


Posted by derail on Oct-03-2007 11:25:

Well, depends what you mean by separate tracks. In Live, all the automation changes are overlaid on top of the waveform (and you only really ever look at one at a time, I believe? I don't do much automation in Live currently)

In Cubase, each audio track has a button to open up the automation lanes for that track. So you can open them all up as separate tracks, or one at a time like Ableton. Then they all fold back into the audio track.

In Reason, the automation tracks are stored with the device used, unless you create separate automation tracks.

So once again, it really depends on the terminology used. Just audio tracks? Audio tracks and explicit automation tracks? Or anything and everything which could count as a track, including tempo tracks, marker tracks, group tracks, buss tracks?

Though once again, the workflow and end result matter more than the track count.


Posted by Derivative on Oct-03-2007 17:07:

Yeah I don't count automation tracks because they are MIDI channels - not audio mixer channels. I use a fucking tonne of MIDI channels All 16 off the single MIDI port I've got. Then I have to bounce with all the automation going so I can get 16 more MIDI channels.


Posted by StanVoid on Oct-03-2007 18:26:

My best track I did with 0 tracks. What.


Posted by djsphere on Oct-03-2007 18:34:

i used around 30 different sounds in my last track....and it's not very complex


Posted by DJ Manuel C on Oct-03-2007 19:12:

Its like Danny Tenaglia says in Elements: "There are many elements to a track, some have few, some have many...I like em all!!" probably not in those exact words *havent heard the song in a while, but you get the point! It doesnt really matter how many elements a track has, as long as it sounds good thats really all that matters!


Posted by Tarpex on Oct-03-2007 21:07:

I like to keep it simple, join as many channels as possible, i just hate enormus mixer one can barely scroll, else find one instantly.
< 10 if all goes to plan


Posted by kitphillips on Oct-04-2007 01:51:

yeah, I prefer to use less intstrument and just morph between different sounds on the same instrument to get different textures. keeps things simpler and more organic.


Posted by simonbostock on Oct-04-2007 03:21:

4 channels - 8bit mono.

Can't beat the Commodore Amiga for writing tracks with Protracker.


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