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How many of you are "on your own"?

Being a producer located in the southern United States (Dallas ,TX), I don't know very many people who are actually into this music, let alone producing. As a result, all my knowledge is gained from reading books, watching the few useful tutorial videos I can find (such as the Andi Vax one) and researching on the internet. While this is a good way to learn, it pales in comparison to having someone be able to give practical advice on a specific situation or question that you may have.

I have noticed that some producers have the benefit of having some type of "mentor" or at least someone they know in real life who can actually give constructive advice and help by physically being with the producers when they are working on music. For me, that has always made things a lot easier to grasp. Sometimes it can be hard to grasp certain concepts explained in print form and apply those concepts to a particular project or problem you may be having.

How many of you are totally on your own when it comes to producing? What I mean by this, is that you are learning how to do this with no outside help from anyone and are having to learn all these skills using nothing but books, videos and, of course, sites like this one?

I shared an apartment with a fellow producer for a while, but neither of us was more experienced than the other.

I'm on my own, but I like it that way. I don't care about the final product, I just produce for fun - and discovering new things by accident is half the thrill.

I think the correct question should be:

How many of you are not on your own

I know some producers that attend to an academy, but I can ensure you the big majority is by their own.

Kopi =o.

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Originally posted by kopi_luwak I think the correct question should be: How many of you are not on your own I know some producers that atend to an academy, but I can ensure the big majority is by their own. Kopi =o.

hit the nail in the head.

id say the majority of us producers are on our own.

i have my hardware, software, internet and time.

Re: How many of you are "on your own"?

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Originally posted by Eric J Being a producer located in the southern United States (Dallas ,TX), I don't know very many people who are actually into this music, let alone producing.

Dallas huh? I'm south of you, near Houston. I'm pretty much on my own. This is a very rural area. I know a DJ/producer that lives in the Austin area, he helped me grasp EQing concepts and methods. I never met him in person, but we've chatted online and emailed each other. He's been an inspiration to me really, encouraging me to keep at it. He's an A&R for a small label (that has now since kind of fizzled), and he made it possible for my first and only release. Besides that, I've had to learn everything by reading internet articles and forums, experimenting, and trial and error. I think I'm doing fine though, been a long road, but I'm now ready to begin approaching labels.

It would of been/would be easier if I had someone to teach me everything in person. That would make it easier for everyone. Most of us are on our on though. At least we have the internet and the TA forum.

You got 4 releases I see, so you are doing pretty good I suppose.

Its pretty much how it is. Noone will teach you their secrets so you pretty much have to learn everything yourself.

Wow, I didn't see that the first poster was from Dallas. I'm from there, though I only live there in the summer now.

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Originally posted by Project-K I'm on my own, but I like it that way. I don't care about the final product, I just produce for fun - and discovering new things by accident is half the thrill.

agreed!

And Eric.. I bet if you checked out http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/ you'd find alot of like minded people in your area

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And Eric.. I bet if you checked out http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/ you'd find alot of like minded people in your area

I am indeed pretty familiar with Dallas Dance Music. Without getting too much into history, they were a competitor to a Dallas-based rave site of mine back in my DJing days in the late 90's. I really don't visit there too much, but I think thats mainly because I've been pretty much disconnected from the Dallas scene since 2001 when I stopped DJing. You are right, though, I should probably check back in over there once in a while.

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You got 4 releases I see, so you are doing pretty good I suppose.

Yeah, out of the 4 I have posted, only one of them is an original (Ocean Park), and that one was released on vinyl way back in 2003. One is a remix we did for a friend's band (New Voodoo) and the other 2 are just remixes I did from remix contests. I took a 4 year hiatus from producing after I stopped DJing and I just got back into it about a year ago, so I did the remixes to kind of get back in the swing of things and try to apply the lessons I learned, most of which were from this site or linked from this site. There is certainly a lot more resources to learn these days than there were back around 2000.

I had a few releases on vinyl back in the day, but to be honest, they weren't that great and I'm not sure how in the world I got them signed in the first place. In addition, it was MUCH easier to get things released back then, even if your material was sub-standard.

It is good to see that I'm not the only one sort of "on my own" here, and it does make me feel like I'm on the right track. It's very cool to be able to get some help on a forum like this, and everyone's always been real nice to me on here. Thanks!

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Originally posted by sterilis time.

Unfortunately, that's the one crucial thing which I do not have

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Originally posted by Eric J I had a few releases on vinyl back in the day, but to be honest, they weren't that great and I'm not sure how in the world I got them signed in the first place. In addition, it was MUCH easier to get things released back then, even if your material was sub-standard.

Wow, those were the days, huh? I wasn't really aware of that. I didn't get into the modern day EDM scene till around 2003. How times have changed. Now about anyone can get a digital release. I picked a bad time to start up with this I guess, with the market so flooded, it's hard to stand out.

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Originally posted by Fledz Unfortunately, that's the one crucial thing which I do not have

Hey.. Welcome to the club.. Got a second child on the way, 4 weeks left and work , and this and that. Man I wish i was 20 again and could just spend entire nights in the studio alone or with friends..

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Originally posted by zodiac9 Wow, those were the days, huh? I wasn't really aware of that. I didn't get into the modern day EDM scene till around 2003. How times have changed. Now about anyone can get a digital release. I picked a bad time to start up with this I guess, with the market so flooded, it's hard to stand out.

Its all about perspectives really. I ordered the trance and progressive for a local record shop in 99-2000 and I remember seeing the list of trance coming from the distributors every week and thinking the market was saturated back then! Now 7 years later, the market just has even more music.

I started in this stuff around 1993, and even though there were a lot of tracks I still love to this day back then, things have progressed alot production-wise since then. Thats a good thing I think, because that means things haven't really stagnated, its just this music has finally grown out of its infancy. Still, sometimes I miss the simplicity of some of my favorite "classic" tracks.

The Genre certainly hasn't stagnated, I listen to stuff from 2003 and I realise how much the genre has changed just in that time, the stuff we call trance now wouldn't have passed in those days! Today's trance has trackcounts up to 50, not like the old days where you were pushing 10! That's got to add complexity to the production I think, but the good thing is that those track counts are available to more people these days, so there's much more variety.

Of course the market being so crowded does make it hard to become a superstar producer like Paul Van Dyk or Sven Vath or something. For me trance has always been about the music anyway, not like rock where its all about the rockstars, that's what I like about it.

On topic: I've always produced completely alone except for manuals tutorials and this forum. I prefer to do things myself, which is why you would rarely find me replying to threads about EQ, I never needed to "learn" how to EQ, I just sort of played until I understood a what did what, so I can't understand why other's often have trouble. A few of my friends are interested in production, but most of them are only planning to start producing, they haven't really started. So of course when they come to me for advice, its really the blind leading the blind

Yeah i guess im like the majority of you. I only get help from the site, but its great help at that . I seriously have learned so much in the last few months. I did have a msn buddy that I meet in the promotion forum. It was trippy cuz after we got to talking i found out that he actually lived right down the street from where i used to live in Vancouver. Small world huh?. We used to send each other songs to get each others opinions, but he had only been producing about a year like me so..... But he was actually pretty talented for how long he had been playing. I dont know what ever happened to him him he just kinda disappered. I remember he said he was supposed to have a release on deepblue, but i havent seen anything since.

Now out of all of my friends none of them produce, let alone even listen to trance. . But i do have a friened over seas whos getting back into production.

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Originally posted by DJDIRTY Hey.. Welcome to the club.. Got a second child on the way, 4 weeks left and work , and this and that. Man I wish i was 20 again and could just spend entire nights in the studio alone or with friends..

I am 20 and have no time. Too much uni. At least summer is almost here and that means 3.5 months of holidays (if I'm not working).

Can't wait!!!

im pretty much alone when it comes to productions..

getting my knowledge of the internet & forums...

hey eric, nice to see another producer from dallas! you going to A&B oct 13th?

oh, and on topic, i never had a mentor, just learned by myself...

self taught in terms of EDM production...it gets pretty lonely at times.

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Originally posted by harris b hey eric, nice to see another producer from dallas! you going to A&B oct 13th? oh, and on topic, i never had a mentor, just learned by myself...

I didn't even know they were going to be in town! Where are they playing?

u get a chance to check out Opencloud play?

(and to answer ur question, all trial/error for me )

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Originally posted by Eric J I didn't even know they were going to be in town! Where are they playing?

the lizard lounge of course

Yeah I checked into that after you posted it. I'll have to put that on my calendar. Check your PM.

Yea I dont produce with anyone else, I've loved trance since 14 and Im now 22 I'm still loving it more and more and been producing with Cubase for over a year and starting to like what I hear as I have all the time after work w/e's and no gf but I do go out with freinds to Bar's.

I swear I wont stop until I get a release and also hope it kick-starts something along side my main day-job career, I'll be getting some new decks soon (cdj's got stolen last year) and hoping to do some local house dj'ing then move on to DJ'ing Trance.

I dont really know too many people fully in to trance/house and would love to have a group of us going to the big clubs like I do occasionally but I would love to live nearer say London where theres always something on although Im under an hour away from Passion and Godskitchen clubs near Birmingham...

I've read Belgium is the place to go to live a life of EDM heaven, Europe in general just loves Trance/House without the boozey culture the U.K has....so like Holland/Germany and the Czech Rebublic I've experience amazing nights out.

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