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Posted by dutas on Oct-06-2007 20:32:

I just mixed one hour

after one month of practice i put together one hour of mix,now i know the transitions are not perfect,but its getting better every day

any comments will be appreciated...

tracklist:

John 0'Callaghan - Split Decision
Tom Colontonio - Tides
Simon Petterson - We'll See
Sophie Sugar - Day Seven
Nick Sentience,John Askew - Mind Control (Thomas Bronzwaer remix)
Neal Scarborough - Madagascar
Bissen - Exhael (Sean Tyas remix)
Daniel Kandi - I found the way
Sean Tyas - Drop

http://www.divshare.com/download/2244762-bf2


Posted by nchs09 on Oct-06-2007 23:37:

needs more sean tyas!


Posted by Saint John on Oct-06-2007 23:45:

Um..yeah...ok i guess...i don't really care for the tracks you played, and there wasn't really any tension i felt like/


Posted by Spirit5 on Oct-07-2007 04:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Oreoh142
Um..yeah...ok i guess...i don't really care for the tracks you played, and there wasn't really any tension i felt like/


He is just learning to mix...mixing comes first before learning to create tension or make a set flow for a beginner. And he probably doesn't have a huge collection either (I didn't when I started).


Posted by Spirit5 on Oct-07-2007 04:06:

For the thread starter....post it in here DJ Promotion


Posted by Wraith on Oct-07-2007 05:50:

I'm on minute 14 and I can already tell you that you need to practise EQ'ing more.

*EDIT* Oh, and phrase matching would help too....


Posted by ThatsMagic on Oct-07-2007 11:23:

thats the way 2 learn keep recording every mix try new ways of mixing make sure you get new tunes once and awhile.


Posted by Trance Android on Oct-07-2007 13:39:

Good first effort. Keep practicing & keep an eye on the levels to keep the volumes close (use gains to adjust), remember phrasing (bring the new tracks in a little earlier before the outgoing track runs out) & keep practicing the eq's. It'll start coming together without even thinking about it in no time Listen to as many sets as you can to get ideas to try out yourself


Posted by dutas on Oct-07-2007 14:03:

thanks guys i really appreciated your commnents.
my focus right now is on eq'ing using the gains and also timing, sometimes i drop the song too early or too late, but beatmatching is getting much better...


Posted by Andryuha on Oct-07-2007 16:59:

Downloading right now. I was in your shoes about 10 months ago and I'm still not good with creating a good flow. My EQ work is rather crappy too. It all takes a long time to master. If you have questions about phrasing, I think I can explain it pretty well, because it was a bit difficult for me to grasp. I didn't have a complete understanding of what it even means. What kind of setup are you using?


Posted by dutas on Oct-07-2007 17:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Andryuha
Downloading right now. I was in your shoes about 10 months ago and I'm still not good with creating a good flow. My EQ work is rather crappy too. It all takes a long time to master. If you have questions about phrasing, I think I can explain it pretty well, because it was a bit difficult for me to grasp. I didn't have a complete understanding of what it even means. What kind of setup are you using?


I use pair of cdj 800mk2 and xone92 mixer
can you explain me the phrasing?

thanks a lot


Posted by Andryuha on Oct-07-2007 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by dutas
I use pair of cdj 800mk2 and xone92 mixer
can you explain me the phrasing?

thanks a lot

That's a nice setup. Mine is rather crappy, compared to that.

I hope this all makes sense, but here goes nothing. First off, when you are listening to the track, you will notice that at certain points, music "changes" or a new instrument is added. Every time, when a new instrument is added, it's a new phrase.


In practice, try pressing play on the 2nd deck right when the new phrase kicks in on the 1st. There are always cues that will tell you that a new phrase is about to come on (cymbal, build up, etc.). If you did it correctly, then your breakdowns, phrase changes should be lined up.

This is phrase matching in a nut shell or at least my understanding of it. I hope it all makes sense. If anybody would like to correct me or add anything, please do so. I've used the method described above and my sets are phrased correctly.


Posted by Wraith on Oct-07-2007 18:21:

http://www.recess.co.uk/html/beats_bars.html

That should help as far as understanding phrasing. There is also alot of other good info on that site as well for beginner DJs so feel free to have a look around.

One thing that I did to help me get EQ'ing down is listen to a shed load of mixes and find places were the DJ has mixed two songs together that you have and the go and try to replicate what you heard.


Posted by Andryuha on Oct-07-2007 18:38:

I listened to your mix and it was pretty good. In fact, I think my sets after 1 month sounded worse because I didnt start working with EQ until much later. Your beat matching sounds pretty good as well. You definitely need to learn how to phrase though. After that, you can start worrying about tune selection and flow of your sets.


Posted by dutas on Oct-07-2007 19:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Andryuha
I listened to your mix and it was pretty good. In fact, I think my sets after 1 month sounded worse because I didnt start working with EQ until much later. Your beat matching sounds pretty good as well. You definitely need to learn how to phrase though. After that, you can start worrying about tune selection and flow of your sets.


yeah i have to definitely learn the phrasing
thanks a lot


Posted by the_gamemaster on Oct-08-2007 21:49:

Re: I just mixed one hour

quote:
Originally posted by dutas

Simon Petterson - We'll See

Bissen - Exhael (Sean Tyas remix)

Sean Tyas - Drop


Some of my favourite tunes of the year, especially simon patterson.

With phrasing you'll find after a certain point it comes naturally, and you dont even need to think about it or count in your head. By the way there are also other clues to tell you when a new phrase is coming, a lot of tracks have a whooshing or filter effect before a new phrase comes in.


Posted by Andryuha on Oct-08-2007 21:59:

Re: Re: I just mixed one hour

quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster

With phrasing you'll find after a certain point it comes naturally, and you dont even need to think about it or count in your head. By the way there are also other clues to tell you when a new phrase is coming, a lot of tracks have a whooshing or filter effect before a new phrase comes in.


exactly. Everybody used to tell me to count bars, etc. That really isn't necessary. All you need to do is pick out the clues that will hint you about the upcoming phrase and some knowledge of the tune, you're playing.


Posted by Trojanman on Oct-08-2007 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Andryuha
That's a nice setup. Mine is rather crappy, compared to that.

I hope this all makes sense, but here goes nothing. First off, when you are listening to the track, you will notice that at certain points, music "changes" or a new instrument is added. Every time, when a new instrument is added, it's a new phrase.


In practice, try pressing play on the 2nd deck right when the new phrase kicks in on the 1st. There are always cues that will tell you that a new phrase is about to come on (cymbal, build up, etc.). If you did it correctly, then your breakdowns, phrase changes should be lined up.

This is phrase matching in a nut shell or at least my understanding of it. I hope it all makes sense. If anybody would like to correct me or add anything, please do so. I've used the method described above and my sets are phrased correctly.



what he said




my eq'ing sucks too... it takes time



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