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Noam Chomsky - On US Global Domination & War on Terror

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@ Harvard University

Listen to this lecture by world-renowned thinker Noam Chomsky, who discusses the US propaganda machine, foreign, as well as domestic policy.

I especially love the quote by Winston Churchill, "THe power of a government to inprison its citizens without charge indefinately is the basis for all totalitarian regimes, whether nazi or communist."

Guess what Bush has done, yep, that's right, under executive order, American citizens can be put away without habeus corpus. The neocons are drooling at the mouth for another September 11!!

I own like 6 books by Noam Chomsky. Brilliant man. Currently reading his Failed States book, when I can, in between college homework

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I own like 6 books by Noam Chomsky. Brilliant man. Currently reading his Failed States book, when I can, in between college homework

Awesome. The man has a gift of totally blocking out the propaganda machine of the US and seeing it for what it really is. Television is a box of propaganda and most don't even realize it. Nothing wrong with watching television, but people's opinions are being based on television, and as we know, just a few corporations own the television curcuit. Compare TV channel ownership to that of books, newspapers, and academic media (lectures, documentaries, dissertations, etc). TV is by far the WORST form of media to gauge world events. Good for watching world events, horrible for understanding world events.

I wrote Chomsky off back when I was a Bushbot in 2000-2002, even though I never read his stuff. I just knew he was against Dubya and got the impression he was "blaming America' for 9/11...when in reality he was simply explaining the situation like Ron Paul is doing today.

Now that I've learned a bit and morphed into an hardcore anti-neocon, I may have to pick up a few of Chomsky's books.

Any recommendations for a noob?

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Originally posted by Capitalizt I wrote Chomsky off back when I was a Bushbot in 2000-2002, even though I never read his stuff. I just knew he was against Dubya and got the impression he was "blaming America' for 9/11...when in reality he was simply explaining the situation like Ron Paul is doing today. Now that I've learned a bit and morphed into an hardcore anti-neocon, I may have to pick up a few of Chomsky's books. Any recommendations for a noob?

I love the Failed States book so far. Though the first one I read from him, Necessary Illusions, really turned me off from TV and mass media, and opened my eyes to the unknown conflicts and the world issues more than ever. The one about world domination agenda and double standards, read Hegemony Or Survival.

Yeah, Chmosky knows his stuff. It's always funny when pundits try to argue against Chomsky. They never seem to be able to dispute his facts so instead there are a lot of attacks on his character.

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Originally posted by Johan (DJ Irish) Yeah, Chmosky knows his stuff. It's always funny when pundits try to argue against Chomsky. They never seem to be able to dispute his facts so instead there are a lot of attacks on his character.

That seems like a very popular tactic of the neocons, on this board, and against the likes of Noam and anti-IRS folks.

Chomsky needs a pseudonym...

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Originally posted by Lira Chomsky needs a pseudonym...

Agreed. He's a very divisive figure.

Fascist Punisher?

my favorite 2 books is understanding power and hegemony or survival


he is too gooddd
i like also naomi klein, very good lately

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Originally posted by Krypton Fascist Punisher?

Chuck Norris of the mind.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Chuck Norris of the mind.

Ah, "Academic Chuck", I like, I like..

Even though I tend to agree with some of the basic ideas Chomsky puts forth, he is at times very guilty of painting things with only the information he wants to put forth. He's a smart guy, and he's smart enough to know that in books and public speaking he has free reign to freely say and publish want he wants to, ignoring other sides of a debate. Many times when he is confronted on this, he simply restates his own data, without much refute to the contrary (or assumes his "incredulous smart guy" routine to those in opposition). Again, I'm not trying to "bash" Chomsky (although I will say I'm not a fan) but just like Fox News and the White House are guilty of only putting forth information to further their own agenda, so is Chomsky. They're simply polar opposites, in my opinion. Unfortunately, those in the middle, who are able to look at things in a fairly unbiased, objective manner, rarely get published or heard simply because they don't have the shock value or controversy that those on the extreme ends of the spectrum do.

Short version; Chomsky says some good things, but realize he paints the picture the way he wants to.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Even though I tend to agree with some of the basic ideas Chomsky puts forth, he is at times very guilty of painting things with only the information he wants to put forth. He's a smart guy, and he's smart enough to know that in books and public speaking he has free reign to freely say and publish want he wants to, ignoring other sides of a debate. Many times when he is confronted on this, he simply restates his own data, without much refute to the contrary (or assumes his "incredulous smart guy" routine to those in opposition). Again, I'm not trying to "bash" Chomsky (although I will say I'm not a fan) but just like Fox News and the White House are guilty of only putting forth information to further their own agenda, so is Chomsky. They're simply polar opposites, in my opinion. Unfortunately, those in the middle, who are able to look at things in a fairly unbiased, objective manner, rarely get published or heard simply because they don't have the shock value or controversy that those on the extreme ends of the spectrum do. Short version; Chomsky says some good things, but realize he paints the picture the way he wants to.

I'de consider Chomsky the fairly unbiased, objective, rarely published (by the mainstream press) guy.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono Even though I tend to agree with some of the basic ideas Chomsky puts forth, he is at times very guilty of painting things with only the information he wants to put forth. He's a smart guy, and he's smart enough to know that in books and public speaking he has free reign to freely say and publish want he wants to, ignoring other sides of a debate. Many times when he is confronted on this, he simply restates his own data, without much refute to the contrary (or assumes his "incredulous smart guy" routine to those in opposition). Again, I'm not trying to "bash" Chomsky (although I will say I'm not a fan) but just like Fox News and the White House are guilty of only putting forth information to further their own agenda, so is Chomsky. They're simply polar opposites, in my opinion. Unfortunately, those in the middle, who are able to look at things in a fairly unbiased, objective manner, rarely get published or heard simply because they don't have the shock value or controversy that those on the extreme ends of the spectrum do. Short version; Chomsky says some good things, but realize he paints the picture the way he wants to.

I can use your logic and say that lets say a techno music radio station is being too dam polar and one-sided by not playing any Britney Spears or Eminem, very unfair!!! Politics is no different. Noam Chomsky, just like most political think tanks and political media groups/stations focus on exposing their subjects to their area of interest, agenda, or goals. Yes, Noam Chomsky has an agenda to take over USA and make it a despotic dictatorship with anyone who opposes him thrown in jail, haha. No, he merely opposes the way things are and offers his view of solution to the problems and issues at hand, and thats what people want to hear. We dont want words of O'Reilly coming out of his mouth, though I think you want both at the same time in some sort of mix.

But talking about the other side, in this case, the neo-con agenda and giving them a fair and equal treatment is merely giving the criminals and bastards a break, just like a techno music station trying to be more fair by adding Lil Kim song to the playlist. We dont want that, its logically stupid to do that. People dont want to hear endorsements and acceptance of some neo-con views by Noam Chomsky to make it more fair for people like you, because the next thing you know it will be all over the news and guess how well that will that result in Noam Chomsky ratings. Politics is a cut-throat game, and it cant play by your "fair" rules.

If I support Chomsky's views, I want to listen just to things related to that, and from that perspective. If I find myself bored or looking for more information, I'll turn on Fox News for a bit (yeah, right) and can draw my own conclusions when comparing the two. Its that easy, and thats actually the best way. You cant have a good and reliable source to portray both sides equally in politics, one way or another, you'll be swaying into one political spectrum/agenda or another at some point, confusing the reader/viewer with both conflicting information and with uncertain position on the issue; when you're in school studying about Big Bang theory, how good of an idea is it at the same time add in Creationist Theory for political correctness? How can both be utilized? And the book is only 350 pages, and we dont want 700 pages because to believe in political correctness is, well, naive ... There's a saying - if you stand in the middle of the road, you'll get hit by traffic from both sides ...

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Originally posted by Krypton Fascist Punisher?

No, I need something to distinguish the linguist Chomsky from the critic Chomsky. Like "Monsieur Syntax" and "Fascist Punisher".

Chom da bomb ???

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