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Posted by CHRles on Oct-10-2007 05:18:

Angry I Really Hope This Guy Get The Death Penalty

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/0...n.ap/index.html

Why hasn't Michael Devlin been sent to Guantanamo Bay?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-10-2007 05:21:

sorry, but how is this in any way political or of note to the PDD?


Posted by CHRles on Oct-10-2007 06:51:

Well, this is the only Current Events section on TA.
Not political though I did add the Guantanamo part


Posted by Zild on Oct-10-2007 11:39:

I don't think we need the death penalty. I'm quite sure his fellow inmates will deal with him justly. People who fuck with kids don't last very long in prison.


Posted by Lira on Oct-10-2007 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by CHRles
Well, this is the only Current Events section on TA.
Not political though I did add the Guantanamo part

The CORe can deal with that.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 14:28:

How is the death penalty really even punishment again?

Tax payers put up a bunch of money (far more than it would cost to imprison him in federal pound me in the ass prison) so this guy can get the easy way out? No thanks.


Posted by tubularbills on Oct-10-2007 14:34:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
How is the death penalty really even punishment again?

Tax payers put up a bunch of money (far more than it would cost to imprison him in federal pound me in the ass prison) so this guy can get the easy way out? No thanks.


unfortunately, the alternative (keeping them in jail) costs more money, and is starting to the reach the point of "cruel and unusual punishment".

i mean, shit, you take away a prisnor's cable TV and all of a sudden you're robbing them of their rights and shit and people get in an uproar.

when really, common sense should tell you, "they're in fucking jail, dumbass".

i remember hearing about a guy who was executed via lethal injection; and apparently it took longer than normal, or they had to inject more than one time, or something like that....anyway, the guy's family tried to claim it was "cruel and unusual punishment" because his execution didn't go right. fucking stupid.


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-10-2007 14:38:

He's only guilty of loving too much.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-10-2007 14:42:

Actually, I am pretty sure that life imprisonment is cheaper than the death penalty as it is currently implemented.


Posted by Akridrot on Oct-10-2007 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
unfortunately, the alternative (keeping them in jail) costs more money,


uh....i've always read the exact opposite
here's a source:
quote:
Radelet said the cost of executing a prisoner in Florida averages about $3.2 million, mostly in trial costs. Keeping that same person in prison for life costs only about $600,000, and the millions of dollars spent on executing prisoners could be put to much better use, he said.


http://news.ufl.edu/1997/01/15/death1/

I've never heard of the life sentence costing less than the death penalty

ed:
also, i think its better to keep them in prison on the off-chance that they might be innocent (not in a clear-cut case as this, but hey). nothing cruel and unusual about life if what you did was horrible enough to forfeit your right to live in civilized society (like what this guy did).


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-10-2007 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Actually, I am pretty sure that life imprisonment is cheaper than the death penalty as it is currently implemented.


It is. Or at least that's what the news has repeatedly stated.


Posted by Taranis on Oct-10-2007 14:49:

How the hell does that work?

Take a gun. Point it at their head. Pull the trigger. You're down however much a single bullet costs.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 14:54:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
unfortunately, the alternative (keeping them in jail) costs more money, and is starting to the reach the point of "cruel and unusual punishment".


That isn't right at all, and what you described afterwards doesn't sound "cruel or unusual" at all.

And furthermore, what is necessarily wrong with cruel & unusual punishment?

Fuck coddling these assholes - they're in prison, and you'd have a hard time convincing me they somehow have the same rights as me, and should be treated as such.


Posted by shaolin_Z on Oct-10-2007 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Zild
I don't think we need the death penalty. I'm quite sure his fellow inmates will deal with him justly. People who fuck with kids don't last very long in prison.

Yup, they get shivved.


Posted by tubularbills on Oct-10-2007 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
That isn't right at all, and what you described afterwards doesn't sound "cruel or unusual" at all.

And furthermore, what is necessarily wrong with cruel & unusual punishment?

Fuck coddling these assholes - they're in prison, and you'd have a hard time convincing me they somehow have the same rights as me, and should be treated as such.


i know it doesn't sound cruel and unusual to you and I, but that's because we have a thing called common sense, which a lot of people don't have.

me personally, nothing. but according to the law, it's "wrong".


Posted by tubularbills on Oct-10-2007 15:00:

also for some reason, i was under the impression that paying for one prisnor's life sentence was more costly than executing them.

apparently, that's not the case. my mistake.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 15:02:

No, it's wrong because knee-jerk, shallow, wannabe civil-liberties attorney's can use half-truths and loopholes to argue that these practices are "cruel."

I swear to God I hate the bullshit, leftist, civil liberties pricks every bit as much as I hate conservative Christians.

Edit: And Will, it costs far more to execute someone almost solely because of the legal costs of the appeals process.


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-10-2007 15:03:

this is why buttsekes is illegal, it added 69 more criminal charges against the dude. and he won't get shanked in prison, they keep these sexual deviants seperate from the other prisoners.



it will be interesting to see how the kid who was there for 4 years reacts to the outside life.


Posted by Space Marine on Oct-10-2007 16:19:

Give this asshole the firing squad. Except everyone aim for the legs and arms. This way he suffers more...


Slowly he will bleed to death.


Posted by d.case on Oct-10-2007 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
The CORe can deal with that.

well that's pretty rude.


Posted by denys envy on Oct-10-2007 16:40:

"69 counts of forced sodomy"

how, exactly, did they figure this one out. did the kid keep a journal of it or something?

...

"Jan. 9th, 2004.

Dear Diary,

It happened again..."


Posted by XaNaX on Oct-10-2007 17:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Space Marine
Give this asshole the firing squad.


Firing squad is too good for guys like that. Hang that fuker


Posted by idoru on Oct-10-2007 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Taranis
How the hell does that work?

Take a gun. Point it at their head. Pull the trigger. You're down however much a single bullet costs.


You'd think so, huh? That would easily be defined as "cruel and unusual" seeing as how the Supreme Court is currently re-evaluating the process behind lethal injection simply because the person who administers the injection is typically not a "trained doctor" and people somehow find that "cruel and unusual."


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 17:52:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
You'd think so, huh? That would easily be defined as "cruel and unusual" seeing as how the Supreme Court is currently re-evaluating the process behind lethal injection simply because the person who administers the injection is typically not a "trained doctor" and people somehow find that "cruel and unusual."


To be fair, there is some solid evidence that lethal injection is a pretty cruel way to kill inmates regardless of who is administering the injection.


Posted by d.case on Oct-10-2007 17:54:

don't understand why cruelty should come into play for murderers and rapists. but whatever.


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