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Posted by MagikMan_643 on Oct-10-2007 14:10:

DJ Mag Top 100 Vote Scandal

From djmag:



This year DJ Mag has been appalled and disgusted to discover suspicious voting irregularities in their Top 100 DJs poll.

For the first time ever, now that DJmag is wholly independent again, the votes in this year�s poll have been collated in-house, and while in previous years we�ve relied on technology to weed out suspect votes, this year it�s been proved that there�s nothing more effective than the naked eye.

With 345,000 votes cast by email, publisher James Robertson has spent a ridiculous number of man-hours going through each vote. His discoveries have resulted in several DJs being disqualified from this year�s poll.

Roberston explained: �This year, I made a decision to investigate votes where the same IP address appeared over 50 times for the same person. The chances of the same person getting voted for by 50 different computers each having been allocated the same IP address within a week would be billions to one.� The biggest DJs at the centre of our investigation were US stars Christopher Lawrence and DJ Dan. Both shared the same marketing manager.

�In both their cases, a script was used to bypass our security system,� said Roberston. �Not only did we get multiple votes from the same IP address, but we got multiple votes from multiple IP addresses � in other words, we received in excess of 50 votes from the same IP address on over 20 occasions. Both Lawrence and Dan vehemently denied any involvement in vote rigging. �I take this matter very seriously,� said DJ Dan. �My assistant and I confronted my former marketing manager via telephone. He strongly denied any wrongdoing, but had no credible explanation for the improper voting. Christopher Lawrence, who used the same marketing person this year, reported similar voting problems. When I discovered the common link was our marketing person, I immediately terminated him.� Lawrence�s lawyer Kent Liu said: �My clients are willing to declare under oath that they themselves did not purchase or use a script, nor did they instruct any person in their employ to do so.

�Chinese cheat DJ Tiesmi admitted paying cash for votes. �Tiesmi explained to me that it cost 4000 Yuan (�260) for 100,000 votes. He had paid a software engineer to create a script to by-pass our security code,� said Roberston. �However, it became apparent very quickly that Tiesmi was cheating when he raced to the No.1 spot within hours of the voting starting. �His friend Yutise, who seemed to appear on the same bill as Tiesmi, as the second DJ, was also investigated. He explained that it was not him cheating, but his crazed fans who he had no control over,� said Robertson. �It�s funny though that the world�s biggest DJs, like PvD and Ti�sto, don�t seem to have such problems.�

More voting irregularities surround the Flash Brothers from Israel � we detected over 1300 votes from the same IP address.

They blamed �friends and family�. In a statement to DJmag, they said: �It appears that some of our friends and family simply wanted to surprise us at all costs and help our cause. We certainly do not condone such behaviour. We feel very distraught about this whole affair. We accept full responsibility for this affair but are quite adamant it boils down to sheer stupidity and oversight.� Hong Kong DJ Erick Junior has been dubbed �the fastest cheat in the East� after a four-day avalanche of votes saw him shoot to third position in the poll. Like the others, he has been disqualified.

DJmag Editor Lesley Wright commented: �It�s outrageous that DJs should attempt to cheat. It shows a blatant disregard for the Top 100 poll, for DJ Magazine and, most importantly, for their fellow DJs. Shame on them.�


Posted by RaPiD____EyE_k on Oct-10-2007 14:11:

nice oh well as long as mikey mike doesn't make it, it's all good


Posted by RaPiD____EyE_k on Oct-10-2007 14:12:

and dj dan is shit there is no way he should have been in the top10 last year


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 14:12:



Yup - I'm sure they had NO idea this happened in previous years.

Edit: And you've always appreciate RaPiD____EyE_k's brilliant appraisal of any situation. Well in m8, glad to see you checked in with us and kept us all informed about how you feel, you know we value your input.


Posted by MagikMan_643 on Oct-10-2007 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by RaPiD____EyE_k
and dj dan is shit there is no way he should have been in the top10 last year


Well now we know how he achieved that


Posted by Niklas Harding on Oct-10-2007 14:13:

kinda scary indeed


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Niklas Harding
kinda scary indeed


The only way this could possibly be described as "scary" is if you took it at all seriously in the first place.

If you did, I really, really feel sorry for you.


Posted by woscar on Oct-10-2007 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Niklas Harding
kinda pathetic indeed


Fixed.


Posted by RebeL9 on Oct-10-2007 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
The only way this could possibly be described as "scary" is if you took it at all seriously in the first place.

If you did, I really, really feel sorry for you.


+1


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Oct-10-2007 14:29:

Congrats for showing how LOW Dj's can possibly go.

As if the myspace whoring wasn't bad enough.


Posted by the_gamemaster on Oct-10-2007 14:45:

So does this mean we can get DJ's we don't like disqualified by voting for them lots of times?


Posted by Niklas Harding on Oct-10-2007 14:53:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
The only way this could possibly be described as "scary" is if you took it at all seriously in the first place.

If you did, I really, really feel sorry for you.


scary... meaning, i wonder why people even care to do stuff like that?


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-10-2007 14:57:

I mean, who's DJ Dan, honestly?


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 14:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Niklas Harding
scary... meaning, i wonder why people even care to do stuff like that?


My mistake.

In any event, at least DJ Mag is essentially forced to admit that lists like these are utterly meaningless and irrelevant (though I'm sure they knew that full well before).


Posted by isoterra on Oct-10-2007 15:06:

quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster
So does this mean we can get DJ's we don't like disqualified by voting for them lots of times?


i like your thinking...


Posted by darkdoze on Oct-10-2007 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by the_gamemaster
So does this mean we can get DJ's we don't like disqualified by voting for them lots of times?


I already said this before. Sit and home and vote over and over for the same DJ and get all your friends to do it too, then the DJ you hate will be DISQUALIFIED. Not very smart of DJ mag to be telling everyone what the criteria is for disqualifying people. How dumb are they giving this info out??

I wonder if DJ Mag thinks this will buy back credibility for their poll???? Throw a couple of DJs on the fire and maybe people will like us again. HAHAHAHAHAHA


Posted by Victor Dinaire on Oct-10-2007 15:15:

# 99 and # 100 are going to be super excited since they wouldn't have made it if this wasn't exposed. One person's negative turns into another's positive..


Ps - Don't know Dan personally so I cannot speak for him but Christopher is a super nice guy and down to earth.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Dinaire

Ps - Don't know Dan personally so I cannot speak for him but Christopher is a super nice guy and down to earth.


I don't really think this reflects as negatively on them as it does DJ Mag.


Posted by IndustryInsider on Oct-10-2007 15:22:

Re: DJ Mag Top 100 Vote Scandal

quote:
Originally posted by MagikMan_643
From djmag:


Both Lawrence and Dan vehemently denied any involvement in vote rigging. �I take this matter very seriously,� said DJ Dan. �My assistant and I confronted my former marketing manager via telephone. He strongly denied any wrongdoing, but had no credible explanation for the improper voting. Christopher Lawrence, who used the same marketing person this year, reported similar voting problems. When I discovered the common link was our marketing person, I immediately terminated him.� Lawrence�s lawyer Kent Liu said: �My clients are willing to declare under oath that they themselves did not purchase or use a script, nor did they instruct any person in their employ to do so.



I read about this the other day on another board, apparently Dj Dan and Christopher L are suing their marketing manager.


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 15:23:

Re: Re: DJ Mag Top 100 Vote Scandal

quote:
Originally posted by IndustryInsider
I read about this the other day on another board, apparently Dj Dan and Christopher L are suing their marketing manager.


Now that would, in fact, reflect poorly on DJ Dan and CL.

No one is going to convince me they didn't know exactly what they were paying for.


Posted by Victor Dinaire on Oct-10-2007 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I don't really think this reflects as negatively on them as it does DJ Mag.



It definitely looks worse for the DJ's imo


Posted by RJT on Oct-10-2007 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Victor Dinaire
It definitely looks worse for the DJ's imo


Why? This list is nothing more than a marketing tool that no one should have ever taken seriously in the first place, so how is CL and Dan paying for marketing in this fashion any different than major labels that use excessive marketing budgets to spam the piss out of all of us?



The only way it reflects poorly on the DJ's is if you buy into the idea that this list is a genuine picture of the 100 best DJ's in the world, and their cheating somehow marred the "integrity" of the list, which to me is a laughable proposition.


Posted by IndustryInsider on Oct-10-2007 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I don't really think this reflects as negatively on them as it does DJ Mag.



It looks like the magazine is trying to sacrifice a couple of Djs to make themselves look good. Kinda odd how there are no UK or European Djs in there article because you know they were cheating.

Makes you wonder who the magazine was targeting.


Posted by Zombie0729 on Oct-10-2007 15:29:

a scandals a scandal and this will follow them for the rest of their careers. pretty nuts if its true but i'm sure this won't be the last we hear of this


Posted by MeLLyMeL on Oct-10-2007 15:30:

Re: Re: Re: DJ Mag Top 100 Vote Scandal

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
No one is going to convince me they didn't know exactly what they were paying for.


This is why I hold them accountable.

It's a business... you wanna be a shady businessman.. than go ahead. But don't put the blame game on someone else.

Absolutely ridiculous if they sue.

What's done is done. We all know Dan and Chris L got the Dj Mag career bump from last years list.


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