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Thoughts?


I have it.. I love it, there are some iffy bits like the effects but I have a djm 400 that takes care of that.
The ability to use ableton helps out a lot and for the price tag, I think its a very reliable piece of audio gear.

I just bought Torq + Xponent

Re: M-audio Torq

Which Torq do you have? Conectiv? If so, you can't rewire into ableton with external control enabled.

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Originally posted by ppcock Thoughts? I have it.. I love it, there are some iffy bits like the effects but I have a djm 400 that takes care of that. The ability to use ableton helps out a lot and for the price tag, I think its a very reliable piece of audio gear.

I've owned Torq since last September, and it is great, especially for the price tag. Keep in mind, I was playing in my bedroom back then.

In the past 4 months or so, I've started playing out, and now hold a residency at 3 clubs. Torq just doesn't cut it. When it gets loud, audio quality sucks. And having the program crash with a packed dancefloor is not a good thing either.

So, I bought Serato today. Excited to see how it works for me this weekend.

Don't get me wrong, Torq is a great program, but using it in a real live setting just isn't a good thing.

I own both Torq and Serato. I think Torq is fine for most people, but Serato has a proven track record and is just great at what it does. It might not have as many bells and whistles, but as a DVS it's very, very solid.

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Originally posted by djkoolaide I've owned Torq since last September, and it is great, especially for the price tag. Keep in mind, I was playing in my bedroom back then. In the past 4 months or so, I've started playing out, and now hold a residency at 3 clubs. Torq just doesn't cut it. When it gets loud, audio quality sucks. And having the program crash with a packed dancefloor is not a good thing either. So, I bought Serato today. Excited to see how it works for me this weekend. Don't get me wrong, Torq is a great program, but using it in a real live setting just isn't a good thing.

I just bought torq supposed to get it on monday
quite excited to the fact that i dont have to burn another cd

i think serato has had more time to mature and develop as a very reliable platform for use at gigs. personally i believe that given some time, torq may be at that same level. its still a relatively new product. hopefully their 1.5 release will make massive improvements

What I actually like about Serato is they don't try to be different things. Torq has DVS support, but also tries to be an effects unit, sampler, mixer, rewire host, vst host, Xponent host, etc.

It does work pretty well though. I just find Serato is so clean and simple.

An M-Audio product will never be at the level of a Rane product.

End of story!

Just an FYI... Serato (software) is a separate company in Europe.

Rane is simply the manufacturer of the interface and distributer of the software.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations An M-Audio product will never be at the level of a Rane product. End of story!

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Just an FYI... Serato (software) is a separate company in Europe. Rane is simply the manufacturer of the interface and distributer of the software.

Ok let me rephrase-


Any product on the market today with M-Audio branding will never be as good as an equivalent product with Rane branding.



That's how it should stay for a while unless M-Audio comes out with a professional level of products anytime soon or Rane all of the sudden decides to make a crappy product.


For the most part these two companies don't really release the same sort of products but overall I've had much better experiences with the Rane products I've used than the M-Audio products which always seem to suck for one reason or another.

I wasn't arguing with you, just clarifying that Rane doesn't deserve all the credit for such a great product

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Originally posted by Allied Nations Ok let me rephrase- Any product on the market today with M-Audio branding will never be as good as an equivalent product with Rane branding. That's how it should stay for a while unless M-Audio comes out with a professional level of products anytime soon or Rane all of the sudden decides to make a crappy product. For the most part these two companies don't really release the same sort of products but overall I've had much better experiences with the Rane products I've used than the M-Audio products which always seem to suck for one reason or another.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Just an FYI... Serato (software) is a separate company in Europe.

Er, Serato is based in Auckland, New Zealand. Other side of the world mate

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Originally posted by djkoolaide I've owned Torq since last September, and it is great, especially for the price tag. Keep in mind, I was playing in my bedroom back then. In the past 4 months or so, I've started playing out, and now hold a residency at 3 clubs. Torq just doesn't cut it. When it gets loud, audio quality sucks. And having the program crash with a packed dancefloor is not a good thing either. So, I bought Serato today. Excited to see how it works for me this weekend. Don't get me wrong, Torq is a great program, but using it in a real live setting just isn't a good thing.

I can't say I've had the same experiences in live situations. I've gig at a few large clubs down here and haven't noticed a sound degradation at all. There are lots of factors like mp3 bitrate and the club's sound settings to take into consideration. I've also never had a crash even when doing gigs outside all day in the hot Miami summer sun.

That being said, there are definitely some needed improvements like the speed of the internal browser, the pitch lock, and the sampler operation. The first two have been confirmed issues that will be improved in the upcoming v. 1.5. By all accounts, this update will be huge so stay tuned!

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Originally posted by miamitranceman I've gig at a few large clubs down here and haven't noticed a sound degradation at all. There are lots of factors like mp3 bitrate and the club's sound settings to take into consideration.

No, those weren't factors in my situations. I even tested that by ripping a CD into WAV format, playing it through Torq, and playing the same disc through a CDJ. The CDJ sounded much cleaner. It may be a minor difference, but nonetheless, there is a difference.

Also, used Serato for two gigs tonight...worked great, exactly what I expected, although I did find that the scratching/record movement does NOT sound as realistic as Torq. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong, but I did have the hi-fi resampler enabled, and I don't really know what else there is to do.

word @ torq sounding like shit

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Serato...worked great, exactly what I expected, although I did find that the scratching/record movement does NOT sound as realistic as Torq.

You're joking, right?

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Originally posted by Konix You're joking, right?

I've probably just become used to Torq's sound; I personally think Serato sounds more digital when scratching, however the response is MUCH better than Torq. But overall, sound quality is a lot better than Torq...no audible distortion at high volumes, which is the biggest plus for me. Trust me, I was not talking bad about Serato; I love every single thing about it, and after using it for only a few days I can easily say I recommend it over Torq, but I simply meant that the scratching didn't seem as realistic sounding as Torq; just my opinion.

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Originally posted by djkoolaide I've probably just become used to Torq's sound; I personally think Serato sounds more digital when scratching, however the response is MUCH better than Torq. But overall, sound quality is a lot better than Torq...no audible distortion at high volumes, which is the biggest plus for me. Trust me, I was not talking bad about Serato; I love every single thing about it, and after using it for only a few days I can easily say I recommend it over Torq, but I simply meant that the scratching didn't seem as realistic sounding as Torq; just my opinion.

Why couldn't more people post these opinions BEFORE I bought torq. Piece of shit.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ Why couldn't more people post these opinions BEFORE I bought torq. Piece of shit.

Ah, Torq isn't all that bad. Seriously, for the money, it's probably one of the best DJ-related purchases I've ever made. I just felt it was a bit lacking once I hit the clubs...it's especially annoying when you're trying to do a set with another DJ, and you find out that every single other DJ in your city uses Serato except for you...(not an encouraging feeling ) But really man, I don't think it's that terrible.

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ Why couldn't more people post these opinions BEFORE I bought torq. Piece of shit.

i try to bash torq as much as possible... it is dogshit compaired to serato! must have been on vacation when you were asking about it lol

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Originally posted by Rememberence_ Why couldn't more people post these opinions BEFORE I bought torq. Piece of shit.

What are the specific issues you're having with it?

I've heard almost only positive things about Torq from the people I know that own it. (And their opinions are not biased because of that)
Strange to hear the opposit here! Thinking of buying it myself soon.

It's totally fine. If you are looking for something to use at gigs, spend a little more for the piece of mind. I think that's what people are really saying.

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Originally posted by Jeremy H I've heard almost only positive things about Torq from the people I know that own it. (And their opinions are not biased because of that) Strange to hear the opposit here! Thinking of buying it myself soon.

My negative experiences with Torq:
- noticably degraded sound quality
- light skipping and hiccups, particularly noticable when playing intricate/detailed music such as ambient and IDM, but not so much with most EDM
- a bit more of a delay than with Serato when I used it

Torq is still a cheap alternative and for the most part a similar solution to Serato but I can't stand poor sound quality, that is #1 in my book.

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