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I posted at a thread earlyer my opinion on this topic i was wandering what every one elses opinion was?

i will only roll at a party if its really big simply because i get nervous around huge crouds... helps me focus in on the music and the fear goes away

I dont mind the drug use at clubs..as long as everyone knows their own limits and dont fucking OD and get the club shut down..then its all good...

happy rolling....

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Originally posted by Sugarbean i will only roll at a party if its really big simply because i get nervous around huge crouds... helps me focus in on the music and the fear goes away

uhm... why do u get nevous around huge crouds?? small crouds i can understand, u go dancing & every1 suddenly starts looking at u n stuff, but large crouds??



i dont give a shit wether ppl do drugs at parties, i just dont... pot n stuff just gets me tired, so i wont make it through the night (at the end of a party it rules though), and i dont do harddrugs, cuz there is just too much junk out there, and i dont really need it, i still have enough fun at parties without em, maybe ill pop some pills when i dont like it anymore

I've stopped, but here's my philosophy on it.

Go to a rave or club sober, if you don't enjoy it, don't go back on drugs, the scene is not for you.

Use the drugs as a tool, once they take you where you want to go mentally,and emotionally, work on getting to that place without them.

Trust me when you have the right DJ it's just as magical!

there r ppl that say popping xtc on trance is like having an orgasm... & to be honest, me & my sober self have never experienced that yet, so drugs would prolly make it more beautiful than it already is without the drugs... but like i said, i still like it enough without em, so i dont need em yet, maybe when its becoming a drag or smth...


what i dont like btw: ppl using too much & getting totally A. confused & dont know what they r doing anymore (i think u should ALWAYS be aware of what ur doing, be responsible) B. agressive, fucking up the entire party

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Originally posted by trintiy Go to a rave or club sober, if you don't enjoy it, don't go back on drugs, the scene is not for you. Trust me when you have the right DJ it's just as magical!

lol i agree with that..
if ya don't enjoy a party without drugs. then its not the right place for ya

You are allowed to use drugs as long as you can handle it.. Dont use it when you get aggressive.. Dont overuse it (yes even if you are "really" cool and can take more than the average person)

Same goes for alcohol...dont drink if you dont know your limits or you get aggressive etc...


Bye

Music is the drug for me,so I don't need it

The first time i dropped a pill...

The first time i dropped a pill.. it was half way thru a night at crasher. I was enjoying it loads up til then, great stuff... then i had a mitsu, lol, it got 200% better. Its just the kick... i said about that in the other drugz post

Most places (that are any good) dont get the kind of agressive vibe at all (probably becoz everyone is off theyre tits on E or something heheh)... ive seen a lot more agro at a place where not so much drug use occurs. so the factor of aggression isnt really an issue with E or something. Its mainly alcohol that causes shit...

Peace

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Originally posted by cyberia Music is the drug for me,so I don't need it

Sooo right......although i should keep my mouth shut cause i avent tryed any of them drugs.......

Re: The first time i dropped a pill...

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Originally posted by tu_face The first time i dropped a pill.. it was half way thru a night at crasher. I was enjoying it loads up til then, great stuff... then i had a mitsu, lol, it got 200% better. Its just the kick... i said about that in the other drugz post Most places (that are any good) dont get the kind of agressive vibe at all (probably becoz everyone is off theyre tits on E or something heheh)... ive seen a lot more agro at a place where not so much drug use occurs. so the factor of aggression isnt really an issue with E or something. Its mainly alcohol that causes shit... Peace

Well this topic is about drugs.. not only "e" .. and a few weeks ago a guy totally freaked out and got aggressive as hell (cause of the drugs) He hit me in the face.. (for nothing..and i mean that) i was slightly drunk So i didnt feel shit.. although i was bleading like hell.. Aaahh well that guy is still looking back every day.. Time to get even..

So dont come here and tell me that drugs doesnt make people different (and yes also aggressive) this ofcourse doesnt happen to everyone everytime.. but hey it can still happen and that aint cool

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Originally posted by Gekhous uhm... why do u get nevous around huge crouds?? small crouds i can understand, u go dancing & every1 suddenly starts looking at u n stuff, but large crouds??

heh...i just get nervous around big crowds, dont know whats hard to understand bout that..hehehe...thats me..lol
i get nervous bout the fact that theirs so many people and i could get lost and man...never be found...hehehe


its not about the dancing either...heh..
cuz i dont care what people think of my dancing...i know im the best dancer even if nobody else does..lol

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Originally posted by cyberia Music is the drug for me,so I don't need it

me too...shit i get a huge rush when listening to it at home so i cant imagine in a huge party......

I don't mind if someone uses E, gamma or whatever. It's their choice and if they get good vibes doing it; cool. I will get worried though if people close to me start to lose the edge and roll too often. Personally I've never tried anything and never will because;

1. if it's good, I'll most probably do it again.. and again... and again since I generally seek good vibes in life. If there's a shortcut, the temptation is too high.

2. if the pill is shit, you most probably end up with pretty unpleasant experience and since there's really no way of knowing what kind of pill you are about to eat I don't think it's worth the risk. And since it's shit, why try it at all?

3. I did some extensive research how ecstacy works and what are the long-term effects according to some tests. The descriptions of neurochemical effects spooked the hell out of me. In addition, who knows what the combined effect of XTC, amphetamine, cocaine, rat poison etc. shit can do. Personally I'll do just fine without

I get the good feeling at parties because of the music (surprise), generally very very nice people, the feeling of unity and love and the UG rave spirit that somehow connects us all. For me, that's all it takes.

peace

yeah. music is definitely the drug. but rollin' a few isn't bad either. like aznrave said up there ^ ODing is really stupid. lol. the poor fools go to friggin' hospital and the club gets shut down. happened a few times up here in toronto. someone even got murdered as i recall...

drugs are bad. that's why they call the bad stuff drug ABUSE.

well.. sincerly.. i dont understand why ppl use drugs.
as i have heard: trance music is not for drugs. dont know why ppl use this shitty fact that trance must go together with this kind of thing. im not agree.. pvd said it once. they dont mix.

respect

true

true......true.......


(Doin an essay inlcuding causes of E)

Re: Re: The first time i dropped a pill...

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Originally posted by Henkie_henk Well this topic is about drugs.. not only "e" .. and a few weeks ago a guy totally freaked out and got aggressive as hell (cause of the drugs) He hit me in the face.. (for nothing..and i mean that) i was slightly drunk So i didnt feel shit.. although i was bleading like hell.. Aaahh well that guy is still looking back every day.. Time to get even.. So dont come here and tell me that drugs doesnt make people different (and yes also aggressive) this ofcourse doesnt happen to everyone everytime.. but hey it can still happen and that aint cool

yeh but 90% of people that take drugs at clubs/raves take 'E' and you get a few doin the odd line of charlie and thas about it in the uk anyhow so chill out bro! people who are on drugs are defeatly less likely to be violent than people on alcohol its a known fact... you just got very unlucky!

laterz

Its funny but most of the hype you hear about drugs is just that.... I didn't try any drugs until I was 24, and that was with Mushrooms... If you know anything about musrhooms you will know there is NO side effects, NO health danger, and its almost impossible to OD...

So ask yourself, why is it illegal? Its been used for 1000's of years, most of those uses for spiritual enlightenment. You see the government fears certain drugs because it causes people to look at things differently, just look at the hippies and their rebellious attitutes as a result of drug use.

Each drug you consider doing should be researched, then you weigh the risks and make an informed decision. Life is full of calculated risk, drugs and alcohol are no different. I've done Weed, Hash, E, and Mushrooms.. To be honest only Mushrooms really appeal to me, but I do enjoy E once in a while.

If you enjoyed riding rollercoasters and you told someone about that wonderfull feeling you had.. and they looked at you and said, "only idiots ride rollercoasters!" Wouldn't that bother you if that individual had never been on a rollercoaster?

Life is an experience, but experience shouldn't be taking too many risks, educate yourself and do it for yourself and no one else...

Be smart, Be safe, Don't listen to www.dare.org, www.drugfreeamerica.com ...... They are sources of mis-information, sadly people believe all that propaganda

Cheers,

Thor.....

LoL i heard some other shit about mushrooms.. that you can get flashbacks (bad ones) when you are older... ahhh well youll see

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Originally posted by mucka yeh but 90% of people that take drugs at clubs/raves take 'E' and you get a few doin the odd line of charlie and thas about it in the uk anyhow so chill out bro! people who are on drugs are defeatly less likely to be violent than people on alcohol its a known fact... you just got very unlucky! laterz

Its all fine with me..(like i said before) But dont take it if ya cant handle it..

GreetZz

Look, drugs have their own rules. Each drugs have its own rules. Keep with the rule and u're cool. Control yourself, if u want more high, stretch it, many ways to do it, not by consuming more. Stay with the rules, like 3 lines, etc. Drugs actually make u love the world, but if somehow that guy is fucked and hit u, its because users are sensitif towards their surroundings. Tips for non-users, don't stare at them, if they talked to u, treat them like a normal person chat up. For those who never tried drugs (good for u), u can't say that trance is already prefect without the help of artificials. Drugs make everything looks and feel better, even a non-sensical chit chat will make u burst into laughter. If u feel this good hearing trance without any artificials, u'll feel better, i can guarantee. Some of u can escape to paradise without any artificials, but how long do u stay? =P But of course drugs are dangerous, they fuck your brains, that's y its illegal, even when its not dangerous at all, but drugs change ppl's life, they can just consume them and forget about life. So, users mind your own business just stay in your paradise don't scare the cleans. And non-users, if users ask for a hug from u give them LOL

hey god... im 100% agree with you.

Actually Henk, the flashbacks are usually from doing LSD, which is the chemical big brother of Pcylobin the active ingredient found in Magic Mushrooms. Believe me, if you had any "flashbacks" on mushrooms it would be very mild and nothing to ever concern yourself with... Thats because Mushrooms are much milder than LSD and therefore they don't mess with your brain like LSD.

All I ever ask of anti-drug proponents is to really know your stuff, don't go by what your "told" and especially the BS that anti-drug groups spout (drugfreeamerica, D.A.R.E, etc..)

With my personal beliefs I think Marijuana should be legalized, definately Mushrooms, and of course then Hash as well.... If we can justify allowing Alcohol and the numerous "perscription medicine" to be used and abused why can't we allow these soft drugs too.

E should be researched a whole lot more, but its uses as a theraputic drug are what most interest me. And by the way a lot of the negetive stuff you hear about E is propoganda. Your neurons don't get destroyed, they mutate, still function but mutate... That only occurs in rare cases of over-heating and high dose amounts... The media loves to play on your fears, read good article put out by time, and please if you ever consider doing E or do E already, please read the great stuff from www.dancesafe.org which has a great little slideshow on what MDMA does to your brain..

Knowladge is Power, believe that

And Mushrooms are good for you LOL..

Thor......

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