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Posted by Saint John on Oct-15-2007 04:49:

How not to DJ

Last night I went to a local high school dance. It was so bad. The DJ was using some shitty denon CD player, a stanton t.50 TT, stanton 2.01 mixer, and his mac book. You could tell all his music was stole by the quality and the occasional radio talker over the music or couple of seconds of silence. He tried to do the whole break down effect by turning off the table, but it failed horrible, because well you just don't do it when everyone is dancing and what not. So yeah, basically, what are your experiences with a really bad DJ? Like honestly this guy was so bad last night how did he even get paid.


Posted by Beatflux on Oct-15-2007 05:08:

At least people were dancing. I've been to several school dances and they all pretty much sucked.

Let me recount all of the "WTF" moments:

Middle School:

This DJ was some friend of one of the teachers and probably wasn't getting paid at all. He was like a wedding DJ, but he would take requests from anyone. So some dumb girl insists on Country, so we got country. Lo and behold no one danced, not even the girl that requested the song.

8th grade graduation party:

I can't remember what the DJ played, but none of us guys wanted to dance so we all went outside and messed around with our skateboards.

High School:

The DJ gets on the mic and says he's going to place some trance. It was absolutely terrible; it was probably a tune he made an hour before coming to the gig.


Posted by Andryuha on Oct-15-2007 05:08:

I know a horrible DJ that plays here in Cleveland. I will not name him though. He doesn't know shit about music or equipment. I've never heard him sync the tracks perfectly and there is no flow to speak of in his "sets." Putting on windows media player would be better then letting this guy play. The only reason why I ever went to parties where he played was because it was very easy to get in without the ID. There were also some hot girls there. It's a shame that there is so much talent here in Cleveland and they let these douche bags play and hold residencies.


Posted by Saint John on Oct-15-2007 05:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
At least people were dancing. I've been to several school dances and they all pretty much sucked.
yeah....about that...no one really was...


Posted by Drake44444 on Oct-15-2007 05:53:

if it was a school sponsored event, well thats why it sucked.


Posted by T-Soma on Oct-15-2007 06:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Andryuha
He plays some crappy dance music which is still based on a 4 beats in a bar format.


huh?


Posted by veezee on Oct-15-2007 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Andryuha
I know a horrible DJ that plays here in Cleveland. I will not name him though. He doesn't know shit about music or equipment. He plays some crappy dance music which is still based on a 4 beats in a bar format. I've never heard him sync the tracks perfectly and there is no flow to speak of in his "sets." Putting on windows media player would be better then letting this guy play. The only reason why I ever went to parties where he played was because it was very easy to get in without the ID. There were also some hot girls there. It's a shame that there is so much talent here in Cleveland and they let these douche bags play and hold residencies.



Did your parents ever have any kids that lived?

Jay


Posted by stan229 on Oct-15-2007 12:18:

i actually witnessed such a dj when i went out to a small nyc club, not saying the name.. but the dj was playing top40 and i dont konw why he had hsi heapdhones on he was definately using ableton for his mixing and poor at it
simply because there was no "MIXING" it was just cutting from track to track every 30seconds.. id even give him the benefit of the doubt if hehad some form of trackflow or good trakcs.. but this guy was playing something "energetic" and then dropped to practically an acapella on a climax

ouch


Posted by DOOMBOT on Oct-15-2007 12:52:

Gabriel & Dresden are probably the worst djs I've ever seen live.


Posted by echosystm on Oct-15-2007 13:07:

quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
huh?


i dont think he realises that all dance music uses a 4 beats per bar format.


Posted by Andryuha on Oct-15-2007 13:29:

quote:
Originally posted by veezee
Did your parents ever have any kids that lived?

Jay


???

Ok, so I made a mistake.


Posted by T-Soma on Oct-15-2007 13:45:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
i dont think he realises that all dance music uses a 4 beats per bar format.


Hardstyle waltz? *shudders*


Posted by JD8180 on Oct-15-2007 15:30:

you have to realize that many of the highschool dj's are trying to dj to fit in because it's something that may make them look "cool." so they truly have no idea wtf they are doing, but most of the kids in the dance think he's doing the right thing anyway.


Posted by Storyteller on Oct-15-2007 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
i dont think he realises that all dance music uses a 4 beats per bar format.


I just bought a 3/4th dance track. Pretty darn cool one 2 I might add. Pain in the ass to mix, but doable nonetheless...


Posted by Rememberence_ on Oct-15-2007 16:57:

anyone ever heard of 'breakbeat' ?


Posted by tintin11 on Oct-15-2007 17:55:

break wHO?!


Posted by miamitranceman on Oct-15-2007 18:47:

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Gabriel & Dresden are probably the worst djs I've ever seen live.



You're gonna have to explain that one. Their setup is definitely on the boring side, but there are far worse out there.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Oct-15-2007 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
You're gonna have to explain that one. Their setup is definitely on the boring side, but there are far worse out there.

Well, their set is obviously going to be beatmatched because of Ableton but that's it. Their track selection is the worst I've ever heard. There is no thought to the tracks that they play. I'd imagine that they take a track, give it a number, throw that number in a hat, and whichever number they pull, they play that track.

When I go see a dj they are going to be put on some sort of standard. I don't go see local djs who are new, expecting to be blown away. I keep an open mind to everyones sound and ability. Gabriel & Dresden have no excuse being that bad as djs since they do this for a living and have been doing it for years. Therefor they get my pick for "Worst DJ(s) I've ever seen live."


Posted by Beatflux on Oct-15-2007 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by JD8180
you have to realize that many of the highschool dj's are trying to dj to fit in because it's something that may make them look "cool." so they truly have no idea wtf they are doing, but most of the kids in the dance think he's doing the right thing anyway.


If you can do the baby scratch, you're in. lol


Posted by L.E.N. on Oct-15-2007 19:52:

I avoided all my school dances. But when I was in Houston last month there was this sorry excuse for one playing in the hotel pub. All he was doing was playing one track, fade out, run his mouth on a mic for a bit then fade in new track. Disgusting...I took my beer back to my room. LAME!


Posted by david.michael on Oct-15-2007 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
anyone ever heard of 'breakbeat' ?


Breakbeat is still four beats per bar. Just not a kick drum on every downbeat. You're confusing time signature with "four to the floor".


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Oct-15-2007 20:53:

There was a DJ @ a popular club in Toronto, and between every song he would play a lil sample advertising his name by a robotic voice. It would be like 10 seconds of total silence.. then the next song.


Posted by Fait on Oct-15-2007 20:58:

quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
Hardstyle waltz? *shudders*



One of my friends made a track like this, I hear it was god awful (and hilarious).


Posted by nerdgrl416 on Oct-15-2007 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
There was a DJ @ a popular club in Toronto, and between every song he would play a lil sample advertising his name by a robotic voice. It would be like 10 seconds of total silence.. then the next song.



Posted by Saint John on Oct-15-2007 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Fait
One of my friends made a track like this, I hear it was god awful (and hilarious).
find it and post it ^_^


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