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Posted by FuzzyChicken on Oct-15-2007 06:45:

FAO: Professional Stock Investors

I'm looking for resources (books, websites, etc.) to learn how to read/interpret various stock charts. I would like something simple and concise that is geared towards the beginner/intermediate level. Only professional/expert people need respond. Thanks for your help!


So far I know about http:/www.stockcharts.com.























PS: If this is in the wrong forum section... oops


Posted by atbell on Oct-15-2007 06:57:

Simple and concise is exactly what investing isn't.

In the most simple terms there are two ways to make money investing.

1. Buy a stock, hold it, get dividends as the company does well.

2. Buy a stock, hold it, sell it at a higher price.

Beyond this it gets confusing, long winded, and debatable.

Every person is going to give you a different theory about how to invest and why.

I come from an engineering and clasical economics background, have experience in international resource trade, and read way to much about macro economics, politics, and international relations. This makes my thoughts on "stocks" longer term and rather general. I might be able to tell you elements of what you are looking for in a company, such as which countries are good, which currencies look sound, which industries are stable, but not which company to buy.


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-15-2007 07:25:

quote:
Originally posted by atbell
Simple and concise is exactly what investing isn't.

In the most simple terms there are two ways to make money investing.

1. Buy a stock, hold it, get dividends as the company does well.

2. Buy a stock, hold it, sell it at a higher price.

Beyond this it gets confusing, long winded, and debatable.

Every person is going to give you a different theory about how to invest and why.

I come from an engineering and clasical economics background, have experience in international resource trade, and read way to much about macro economics, politics, and international relations. This makes my thoughts on "stocks" longer term and rather general. I might be able to tell you elements of what you are looking for in a company, such as which countries are good, which currencies look sound, which industries are stable, but not which company to buy.


and then there's always shorting


Posted by FuzzyChicken on Oct-15-2007 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by atbell
Simple and concise is exactly what investing isn't.

In the most simple terms there are two ways to make money investing.

1. Buy a stock, hold it, get dividends as the company does well.

2. Buy a stock, hold it, sell it at a higher price.

Beyond this it gets confusing, long winded, and debatable.

Every person is going to give you a different theory about how to invest and why.

I come from an engineering and clasical economics background, have experience in international resource trade, and read way to much about macro economics, politics, and international relations. This makes my thoughts on "stocks" longer term and rather general. I might be able to tell you elements of what you are looking for in a company, such as which countries are good, which currencies look sound, which industries are stable, but not which company to buy.


Thank you for your quick reply, but unfortunately I was looking for resources specifically geared towards learning about stock charting (and the like). Not a basic lesson on investing. Again thanks for your help!


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-15-2007 07:46:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyChicken
Thank you for your quick reply, but unfortunately I was looking for resources specifically geared towards learning about stock charting (and the like). Not a basic lesson on investing. Again thanks for your help!


http://www.esignal.com

http://www.esignallearning.com


Posted by atbell on Oct-15-2007 08:06:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyChicken
Thank you for your quick reply, but unfortunately I was looking for resources specifically geared towards learning about stock charting (and the like). Not a basic lesson on investing. Again thanks for your help!


what do you mean by "stock charting"?


Posted by Trancer-X on Oct-15-2007 08:10:

quote:
Originally posted by atbell
what do you mean by "stock charting"?


I thought that he was talking about technical analysis


Posted by FuzzyChicken on Oct-15-2007 08:28:

Jeesh! I didn't realize this topic would be so difficult for people to understand/help with.

I just wanted to learn more about how to interpret and understand various stock charts (ie: Point & Figure, and click here ) as well as general technical analysis of stocks.

Possibly books like this (but I would prefer user recommendations):
1) Encyclopedia of Chart Patterns (Wiley Trading) by Thomas N. Bulkowski
2) The Encyclopedia Of Technical Market Indicators, Second Edition by Robert W. Colby
3) Stikky Stock Charts: Learn The 8 Major Stock Chart Patterns Used By Professionals And How To Interpret Them To Trade Smart
4) How Charts Can Help You in the Stock Market
5) Technical Analysis of the Financial Markets: A Comprehensive Guide to Trading Methods and Applications
6) Select Winning Stocks Using Technical Analysis by Clifford Pistolese
etc. etc.

Basically, read my first post again but more carefully!


Edit:
quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
http://www.esignal.com

http://www.esignallearning.com


I will look at these when I have more time. Sleep is calling me atm. Thanks for your suggestions!


Posted by Krypton on Oct-15-2007 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyChicken
Jeesh! I didn't realize this topic would be so difficult for people to understand/help with.

I just wanted to learn more about how to interpret and understand various stock charts (ie: Point & Figure, and click here ) as well as general technical analysis of stocks.

Possibly books like this (but I would prefer user recommendations):
1) Encyclopedia of Chart Patterns (Wiley Trading) by Thomas N. Bulkowski
2) The Encyclopedia Of Technical Market Indicators, Second Edition by Robert W. Colby
3) Stikky Stock Charts: Learn The 8 Major Stock Chart Patterns Used By Professionals And How To Interpret Them To Trade Smart
4) How Charts Can Help You in the Stock Market
5) Technical Analysis of the Financial Markets: A Comprehensive Guide to Trading Methods and Applications
6) Select Winning Stocks Using Technical Analysis by Clifford Pistolese
etc. etc.

Basically, read my first post again but more carefully!


Edit:


I will look at these when I have more time. Sleep is calling me atm. Thanks for your suggestions!


I am not a chartist, but here are some good resources..

http://www.investopedia.com/university/charts/
http://www.investopedia.com/university/technical/
http://www.investopedia.com/univers...tor_oscillator/
http://www.investopedia.com/university/marketbreadth/
http://www.investopedia.com/article...g/04/082504.asp

You also might want to google "Technical Analysis"...


Posted by atbell on Oct-16-2007 02:04:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyChicken
Jeesh! I didn't realize this topic would be so difficult for people to understand/help with.


If it was simple we'd all be rich by now.

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyChicken
I just wanted to learn more about how to interpret and understand various stock charts (ie: Point & Figure, and click here ) as well as general technical analysis of stocks.

Possibly books like this (but I would prefer user recommendations):
1) Encyclopedia of Chart Patterns (Wiley Trading) by Thomas N. Bulkowski



I'm going to be a bit blunt and may offend peoples sensibilities, this book seems like shit. It would be likely as good to read up on tea leaves and end trails as "Chart Patters" ... they don't exist.

Patterns in human behaviour, which influence consumption, spending, employment, government policy, and political stability better explain the charts then any magic formula. These are the things that drive the changing numbers that are plotted in the charts.

I'd suggest starting by reading the following:

http://www.amazon.ca/Economics-Cana...92499753&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.ca/Macroeconomics...92500027&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.ca/Intermediate-M...92499860&sr=1-1

That should give you a sound basis to understand how the graphs work. To firm up you're understanding I'd move on to these books:

http://www.amazon.ca/World-Trade-Pa...92499796&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.ca/Maritime-Econo...92499886&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.ca/International-...92499934&sr=1-3

These should give a decent understanding of economics and what is hapening to create the graphs of share prices / trading volumes.



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