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Why is it

that people are sooooooo damn lazy. Every morning I see people race to get a seat on the train (pushing old people out of the way) to sit down for a grand total of 15min. They get off the train and take the escalator up so that they can rush to their desks and sit on their asses for ~8hours then they do the whole thing all over again at the end of the day.

People's laziness continues to amaze me and what makes it worse is seeing old people with canes and walkers looking for seats on the train while young able bodied people are lounging.

I ride the train pretty much from the beginning of the D line so I always have a seat to work.

But on the way home I usually just stand. I know it's rush hour and I don't really care to sit for the same reasons you stated above.

It's super funny. I think the stop in Chinatown is the funniest.

Fuck old people.

back when i was in college, i rode on the "slow" train, which took was a 30 to 40 minute ride for me one way. i would let the old people take the seats and stand for the whole ride if the train was busy.

chi, i think it's less about "laziness", but more about the "me me it's all about me" approach, not looking after other people's needs, including old people with canes.

Pushing old farts down the stairs is quite a lot of fun.

You can always tell apart the tourists and the residents of NYC. The tousits will give up their seat to everyone while the new yorkers will stare at them with a crazy look in their eyes

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Originally posted by leph555 You can always tell apart the tourists and the residents of NYC. The tousits will give up their seat to everyone while the new yorkers will stare at them with a crazy look in their eyes

hahaha

omg i was complaining to my boyfriend yesterday how we were stopped for 25 mins at one stop because of a dog on the track 2 stop ahead of us.

ok it's not anyones fault and I'm glad they are trying to save the dog [btw how the fuk did it go up 2 flights of stairs, through the turnstile and fall onto the track??]. All these people are like "RUN THE FUKING DOG OVER" blah blah blah.

Cursing out loud.

That's not gonna help. It sucks sitting there when everyone just wants to go home but nothing is going to change with your bitching.

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Originally posted by leph555 You can always tell apart the tourists and the residents of NYC. The tousits will give up their seat to everyone while the new yorkers will stare at them with a crazy look in their eyes

I want to go to New York just so I can experience one of those stereotypical abusive conversations between strangers:

"hey, move yo ass!"

"keep honking horn that, pal, and I'll come over and shove it right up ya butt!"

"I'd like to see you try, moron."

"Yeah, well, maybe I will, buddy!"

"Yeah, well, so would I, but you keep your ugly head right in that gas-guzzling car of yours, asshole"

etc

Also the stereotypical "whiny Jew" would be funny. We don't get them here.

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Originally posted by chimera66 seeing old people with canes and walkers looking for seats on the train while young able bodied people are lounging.

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Originally posted by chimera66 that people are sooooooo damn lazy. Every morning I see people race to get a seat on the train (pushing old people out of the way) to sit down for a grand total of 15min. They get off the train and take the escalator up so that they can rush to their desks and sit on their asses for ~8hours then they do the whole thing all over again at the end of the day. People's laziness continues to amaze me and what makes it worse is seeing old people with canes and walkers looking for seats on the train while young able bodied people are lounging.

i think its just a matter of preference. i am lazy, but i prefer to stand on subways and buses.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog I want to go to New York just so I can experience one of those stereotypical abusive conversations between strangers:

I didn't see it at all when I was working and living there for a few months, there was the general hum of sirens and stuff all the time and if you're really lucky a deep frozen hobo on your doorstep. Think it's probably more to do with the fact you're 'not one of them' and they tend to be fairly much friendly/weird as anyone else in the US.

Why people are lazy?
Think it's just the sheepish mentality of mimicking other's behaviour and following the path of least resistance through their lives.
It's why people get their stomach stapled instead of just putting down the fork, why they know they'll be fit by walking the long way around instead of the escalators, eat fast food instead of taking 5mins in the morning to make something that wont give them diabetes.
They just can.
It's convenient and as much as it'll come back to haunt them, they simply don't care or figure they'll do it tomorrow.

Problem is not many people in the world have the consideration for others. I find most people dont give a crap about others.. So more people (who would normally give up a seat) eventually stop being so nice and giving.. Simply because they've been nice in past and It's gone unthanked.

Nice guys finish last.

I still try and be nice here and there.. Not smoke near non-smokers, Give the occasional foreigner (Correct) directions etc.. But theres only so far i will go anymore. Easpecially if iv been on my feet all day at work or at a club. Fuck em.

worst thing I ever saw was some 70 year old lady with a walker leaning on the door while everyone around her sat down. She had swollen ankles and she go off at my stop which had no elevator. People shoved her out of the way to rush off the train and not a single person even offered to help her up the stairs.

I was so pissed off...either way I carried up her walker and had her lean agaist me so she could make it up the stairs. That is absolutely ridiculous that I was the ONLY person willing to help her.

Yea I get up for old people and help them when they need it. Same goes for pregnant women and injured people. I mean hell, if the most fit and obviously strong person breaks their leg you still should get up for them if they are on crutches. For old people and pregnant women, well that should be an unspoken rule.

People are just inconsiderate and it's also a cultural thing. Back in Eastern Europe, alot more people seem to get up than in the more westernised countries.

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Originally posted by Fl@k Monkey Problem is not many people in the world have the consideration for others.

agreed

Oregonians are extremely considerate and curtious in regards to this...

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Originally posted by chimera66 that people are sooooooo damn lazy. Every morning I see people race to get a seat on the train (pushing old people out of the way) to sit down for a grand total of 15min. They get off the train and take the escalator up so that they can rush to their desks and sit on their asses for ~8hours then they do the whole thing all over again at the end of the day. People's laziness continues to amaze me and what makes it worse is seeing old people with canes and walkers looking for seats on the train while young able bodied people are lounging.

You sound like a non-native New Yorker =P .

The simple answer, I think, is that the above ^^^ is what happens when you've lived in New York for too long. I'm not guilty of pushing anyone out of the way to get a seat. Nothing wrong with standing, ESPECIALLY before OR after sitting around in an office all day.. but I definitely used to be much better about giving my seat up. Growing up I used to give up my seat for EVERYYYONEE. I suppose I was taught to be polite and whatnot. Now though, I usually don't have much mercy.

The way it works is... after a a good number of years living here you realize that there are MILLIONS of people who ride the train with you every day and you can't make them ALL happy every day. Moreover, no one is necessarily more or less valuable as a human being that they should get special treatment. Living in New York entails standing up on trains and busses every now and then. Surely old people are aware of this and have accepted these conditions, as we still see them riding the trains every day. Nowadays, unless I'm in a great great mood, I only usually get up for a really pregnant woman, a pregnant woman with kids, or an old person who doesn't look like they're fit to stand. Oh, also a woman with a newborn or child who is unable to walk.

I'm not sure it's really about laziness though. I think the mentality is "Why should I have to expend extra energy in order for YOU to preserve yours?" "Why should YOU have to expend extra energy on account of me conserving mine?? What makes me so special that you should go the extra mile??"

I really hate how this all sounds, just to let you know. I do recognize that it's a bit harsh, but I think high density populations, where people HAVE to look out for themselves because no one else will, are what produce the kind of behaviors you've been observing. Standing up on a crowded train is probably one more stressful thing that people want to cross off their list of stressful things that they have to deal with on a typical NYC day. It's a lot easier to be polite when the population is only 100 or 200,000.

lol... I've been here too long.

i can understand giving up seats for old/handicapped/pregnant people, but i always preferred to stand on the subways. i always had fun making a game out of trying to force myself to stay balanced without holding onto a pole or handle.

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Why should I have to expend extra energy in order for YOU to preserve yours?

cause it's more stressful on an older person's body... they way i see it, for me to stand 10 minutes, or open a door for someone, might stress my joints and take a few SECONDS of my life in the end.... for an elderly person to exert the same energy, might stress their body a lot more and take, say, a few DAYS off their life...

kids these days are jackasses... no respect for no one... not even the elderly.

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Originally posted by Zild Fuck old people.

Fuck old people indeed. If they don't have a job to be at, or to be coming home from, then timing a ride home with the work rush hour is plain moronic. Their stupidity can be rewarded with having to stand as far as I'm concerned.

It's a dog eat dog world I'm afraid, and I will eat your fucking dog.

on my bi-weekly visits to Brighton Beach I see this type of shit all the time. especially when i take the train from Manhattan to BB and all these older ppl are on the train and the young hoodlums don't even budge, makes me wanna smack them around a bit and be like "WTF is wrong with you? she's like 80 and you 18!"

but whatever, ignorance is bliss i guess.

mel - grand street stop ftl.

the worst is when people that are obviously too big try and squeeze themselves into a bucket seat. i have to suck in my breath just for this person to sit next to me? eff that

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Originally posted by trunks1022 mel - grand street stop ftl.

lmfao

grand street is the one i was talking about.. haha

i look forward to that stop everyday. It amuses me.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 mel - grand street stop ftl. the worst is when people that are obviously too big try and squeeze themselves into a bucket seat. i have to suck in my breath just for this person to sit next to me? eff that

it is ALWAYS heavier women; we are all built differently but when there is place for a small child please PLEASE don't try to fit your 200lb body in that spot...seriously are you joking me? I rarely if ever sit down on the subway...

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit

+1

let the old people sit, they did their time already...


unless i have a reason to do otherwise i treat old people with respect as a matter of course.

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