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Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-16-2007 19:24:

Dunno 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

quote:
"Mom and Dad" as well as "husband and wife" effectively have been banned from California schools under a bill signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose.

"We are shocked and appalled that the governor has blatantly attacked traditional family values in California," said Karen England, executive director of Capitol Resource Institute.

"With this decision, Gov. Schwarzenegger has told parents that their values are irrelevant. Many parents will have no choice but to pull their children out of the public schools that have now become sexualized indoctrination centers."

"Arnold Schwarzenegger has delivered young children into the hands of those who will introduce them to alternative sexual lifestyles," said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, which worked to defeat the plans. "This means children as young as five years old will be mentally molested in school classrooms.

"Shame on Schwarzenegger and the Democrat politicians for ensuring that every California school becomes a homosexual-bisexual-transsexual indoctrination center," he said.


Analysts have warned that schools across the nation will be impacted by the decision, since textbook publishers must cater to their largest purchaser, which often is California, and they will be unlikely to go to the expense of having a separate edition for other states.

The bills signed by Schwarzenegger include SB777, which bans anything in public schools that could be interpreted as negative toward homosexuality, bisexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.

There are no similar protections for students with traditional or conservative lifestyles and beliefs, however.

"SB 777 will result in reverse discrimination against students with religious and traditional family values," said Meredith Turney, legislative liaison for Capitol Resource Institute. "These students have lost their voice as the direct result of Gov. Schwarzenegger's unbelievable decision. The terms 'mom and dad' or 'husband and wife' could promote discrimination against homosexuals if a same-sex couple is not also featured.

"Parents want the assurance that when their children go to school they will learn the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic � not social indoctrination regarding alternative sexual lifestyles. Now that SB777 is law, schools will in fact become indoctrination centers for sexual experimentation," she said.

England told WND that the law is not a list of banned words, including "mom" and "dad." But she said the requirement is that the law bans discriminatory bias.

"Having 'mom' and 'dad' promotes a dicsriminatory bias. You have to either get rid of 'mom' and 'dad' or include everything when talking about [parental issues]," she said. "They [promoters of sexual alternative lifestyles] do consider that discriminatory."

Also signed was AB394, which targets parents and teachers for such indoctrination through "anti-harassment" training, CCF said.

Schwarzenegger had vetoed almost identical provisions a year ago, saying existing state law already provided for penalties for discrimination.

"We had hoped that the governor would once again veto this outrageous legislation but he obviously decided to side with the out-of-touch extremists that control the legislature. This law does not reflect the true values of the average Californian," said England. "True leadership means standing up for what is true and right."

Thomasson said SB777 prohibits any "instruction" or school-sponsored "activity" that "promotes a discriminatory bias" against "gender" � the bill's definition includes cross-dressing and sex changes � as well as "sexual orientation."

"Because no textbook or instruction in California public schools currently disparages transsexuality, bisexuality, or homosexuality, the practical effect of SB777 will be to require positive portrayals of these sexual lifestyles at every government-operated school," CCF noted.

Offenders will face the wrath of the state Department of Education, up to and including lawsuits.

CCF noted that now on a banned list will be any text, reference or teaching aid that portrays marriage as only between a man and woman, materials that say people are born male or female (and not in between), sources that fail to include a variety of transsexual, bisexual and homosexual historical figures, and sex education materials that fail to offer the option of sex changes.

Further, homecoming kings now can be either male or female � as can homecoming queens, and students, whether male or female, must be allowed to use the restroom and locker room corresponding to the sex with which they choose to identify.

AB394 promotes the same issues through state-funded publications, postings, curricula and handouts to students, parents and teachers.

It also creates the circumstances where a parent who says marriage is only for a man and a woman in the presence of a lesbian teacher could be convicted of "harassment," and a student who believes people are born either male or female could be reported as a "harasser" by a male teacher who wears women's clothes, CCF said.


More on this matter Here

am I missing something? or is this beyond ridiculous?


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Oct-16-2007 19:32:

Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew


am I missing something? or is this beyond ridiculous?


That's just a lil too much, lol imagine all the lil boys going into the girl's bathroom and peeping


Posted by Yohan on Oct-16-2007 19:37:

well, some places do have unisex bathrooms, and it's still rude to take a peek and other people's winky or pussy in those places.
those pervs deserve a throat punch anyways

though I guess this means more bathroom sex.

I'm curious. if mom and dad are banned from usages, exactly how would you call your parents?


Posted by kaniz on Oct-16-2007 19:37:

Is a website that advertises shirts from thoseshirts.com really a credible news source? They seem like the ultra-conservative nutjub equivliant of the enquirer


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-16-2007 19:40:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
'm curious. if mom and dad are banned from usages, exactly how would you call your parents?


parent #1 and parent #2?


Posted by Yohan on Oct-16-2007 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
parental unit #1 and parental unit #2?

fixed


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Oct-16-2007 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
parent #1 and parent #2?


that wouldn't be fair for parent #2 cause parent #1 sounds better :S


Posted by FunkyCrew on Oct-16-2007 19:48:

maybe he wants the kids to call parents by their first names?


Posted by kaniz on Oct-16-2007 19:48:

Odd, when doing a search for SB 777 (the bill they are referring to), every news source I find seems to be some extremist Christian group.

But in short, the bill just wants to eliminate negative bias towards things like homosexuality/bisexuality/transgender/etc.

Extremist groups are viewing this as an attack on traditional / religious values, and are blowing it out of portion to say "They wont even let you say mom and dad any more because it shows gender bias"

aka - heads up their ass, where they usually are.

Some info from the bill itself.

quote:

SB 777, as introduced, Kuehl. Discrimination.
Existing law states that it is the policy of the state to afford equal
rights and opportunities to all persons in the public or private elementary
and secondary schools and postsecondary educational institutions of
the state regardless of their sex, ethnic group identification, race, national
origin, religion, or mental or physical disability and prohibits a person
from being subjected to discrimination on those bases.

Existing law prohibits a teacher from giving instruction, and a school
district from sponsoring any activity, that reflects adversely upon persons
because of their race, sex, color, creed, handicap, national origin, or
ancestry.
Existing law prohibits the State Board of Education and the governing
board of a school district from adopting for use in the public schools
any instructional materials that reflect adversely upon persons because
of their race, sex, color, creed, handicap, national origin, or ancestry.
This bill would revise the list of prohibited bases of discrimination
and the kinds of prohibited instruction, activities, and instructional
materials and instead, would refer to disability, gender, nationality, race
or ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation
, or any other characteristic contained in the definition of hate crimes that is contained in the Penal
Code. The bill would define disability, gender, nationality, race or
ethnicity, religion, and sexual orientation for this purpose.



source: SB777 bill introduced

So, they simply want to extend the equal-rights and non-descrimination to enclude sexuality.

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me if I'm understanding it correctly.


Posted by Tordan on Oct-16-2007 20:07:

that article is a load of BS. not credible at all. i skimmed over the bill and it doesn't seem bad like that article would want you to believe.


Posted by me@t k@tie on Oct-16-2007 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Tordan
that article is a load of BS. not credible at all.


Posted by activate on Oct-16-2007 21:54:

That's so not real

Don't even have to say why.. it's just blatanly obvious.


Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-16-2007 22:07:

smells like Onion


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-16-2007 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
smells like Onion

That was my first instinct. It's WND though - they take any liberal political move and respond to it with batshit crazy ultra-right rants. Sadly, it's par for the course.


Posted by She_Fitz on Oct-16-2007 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
That was my first instinct. It's WND though - they take any liberal political move and respond to it with batshit crazy ultra-right rants. Sadly, it's par for the course.


Sad part is.. people obviously believe what they have to say.


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-17-2007 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by She_Fitz
Sad part is.. people obviously believe what they have to say.

Sort of. Of course there's an extreme religious right that believes them word for word, but their numbers are vanishingly small, and almost all conservatives tend to view that site as a National Enquirer of sorts. It draws attention to real issues, but the editorialism is intentionally over-the-top (or at least I think it's intentional). Like the "God hates fags" videos, it's just too silly for most people to take seriously.

What concerns me far more is the tripe you can see thrown up by the peanut gallery on dKos or DU or LGF. Or the mind-numbing conspiracy theories of the Loose Change truthers and GNN. WND is like HuffPo - the people who actually read it for anything other than entertainment value are generally harmless misfits, and very few in number.


Posted by soupastah on Oct-17-2007 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Invasionmix
that wouldn't be fair for parent #2 cause parent #1 sounds better :S


baaaaaaaahahahhahaahhahahh


Posted by Dr. DAS on Oct-17-2007 18:30:

lol @ "LGBT Indoctrination centres"

PANIC! PANIC! PANIC!


Posted by Beings on Oct-17-2007 19:20:

GOD HATES FA..!!!!!


lmao, religious nutjobs at it again.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-17-2007 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Beings
religious nutjobs


Posted by djeso on Oct-17-2007 19:41:

Arnold Schwarzenegger should really stick to movies .... period


Posted by Abercrombie on Oct-18-2007 02:49:


Posted by Andrieux on Oct-18-2007 03:12:

Living in Sacramento and working with the politicians that make such crazy bills has made me lose a lot of faith in the political process of both California and the United States. These wacky bills come about due the extreme left/right wing interest groups that feed money and votes into the politicians that write the bills. Of course this is nothing new, but it seems California has a way of making this process a circus and causing other countries to look at us like


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-18-2007 03:16:



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