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Bush: Threat of World War III if Iran goes nuclear

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush warned on Wednesday a nuclear-armed Iran could lead to World War III as he tried to shore up international opposition to Tehran amid Russian skepticism over its nuclear ambitions.

Bush was speaking a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has resisted Western pressure to toughen his stance over Iran's nuclear program, made clear on a visit to Tehran that Russia would not accept any military action against Iran.

At a White House news conference, Bush expressed hope Putin would brief him on his talks in Tehran and said he would ask him to clarify recent remarks on Iran's nuclear activities.

Putin said last week that Russia, which is building Iran's first atomic power plant, would "proceed from the position" that Tehran had no plans to develop nuclear weapons but he shared international concerns that its nuclear programs "should be as transparent as possible."

"The thing I'm interested in is whether or not he continues to harbor the same concerns that I do," Bush said. "When we were in Australia (in September), he reconfirmed to me that he recognizes it's not in the world's interest for Iran to have the capacity to make a nuclear weapon."

Bush, who has insisted he wants a diplomatic solution to the Iranian issue, is pushing for a third round of U.N. sanctions against Iran.

Russia, a veto-holding member of the Security Council, backed two sets of limited U.N. sanctions against Iran but has resisted any tough new measures.

Stepping up his rhetoric, Bush said a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a "dangerous threat to world peace."

"We've got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel," he said. "So I've told people that, if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon."

PUTIN'S "SPECIAL MESSAGE"

Iran rejects accusations it is seeking to develop a nuclear bomb, saying it wants nuclear technology for peaceful civilian purposes such as power generation, and has refused to heed U.N. Security Council demands to halt sensitive uranium enrichment.

Chief Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani was quoted by Iran's official IRNA news agency on Wednesday as saying that Putin had delivered a "special message" on its atomic program and other issues. No other details were given.

Putin's visit on Tuesday was watched closely because of Moscow's possible leverage in the Islamic Republic's nuclear standoff with the West. It was the first time a Kremlin chief went to Iran since Josef Stalin in 1943.

Asked about Putin's "special message," U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey said he was not aware of any deal or offer put forward by Moscow to Tehran over the nuclear program.

On Russian opposition to Caspian Sea states being used to launch attacks against Iran, Casey reiterated that Bush kept all his options on the table but that the United States was committed to the diplomatic path with Tehran.

(Additional reporting by Frederick Dahl in Tehran and Sue Pleming in Washington)

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I say lets Nuke them before they destroy the world.

I was going to mention this, actually. Anytime a president even MENTIONS world war 3 is a cause for concern. Especially when tensions are SO high with several countries, and not just with us.

-Turkey planning to invade Iraq
-Iran being stubborn
-Bush ITCHING to invade Iran or at least bomb them
-Russia loves turkey (I think)
-Russia is so-so with Iran, but it's their Opposition with an attack/invasion that would put them on their side (In my opinion)
-Israel attacks Syria

Anything else? I think those have been the most serious issues concerning any WW3 scenario, as of late.

A pretty scary situation, right now. Let's hope everything fixes itself. If not, I think we (The world) could be thrown into a larger conflict.

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Originally posted by LatinLover I say lets Nuke them before they destroy the world.

No. What the hell is your problem. Solve everything with peace, not violence. Our administration isn't too keen on that, but I think the American people are TIRED of all the war bullshit this decade.

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Originally posted by LatinLover I say lets Nuke them before they destroy the world.

More pre-emptive attacks eh? That worked well in Iraq. How many dead, how many billions spent, how many lives lost? Sounds like a good plan to me. Iran is only bigger and better armed, so it'll probably be done sooner!

Again NUKE IRAN. I mean is it better for us to erase Iran off the map or for Iran to erase the whole West out of the map?
I mean Iran knows what they have to do to engage in diplomacy with us, to take a stance to halt their program and come to the table to negotiate any other program alternatives. Till this day they have decided to do things their way and there isnt any indication they are going to change of mind. Fuck that nuke them its not like they value human life anyway

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Originally posted by LatinLover Fuck that nuke them its not like they value human life anyway

this has to be the dumbest thing i've read today...

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Originally posted by LatinLover Again NUKE IRAN. I mean is it better for us to erase Iran off the map or for Iran to erase the whole West out of the map? I mean Iran knows what they have to do to engage in diplomacy with us, to take a stance to halt their program and come to the table to negotiate any other program alternatives. Till this day they have decided to do things their way and there isnt any indication they are going to change of mind. Fuck that nuke them its not like they value human life anyway

Well thats a good idea. That won't set a precedent at all. Of course the lives of all those Iranians are worth nothing anyways. And it's not like there will be nuclear falloff affecting all the countries all around the middle east. I'm sure that won't breed any more hatred of the US, and I am definitely sure it won't create any more enemies. I am also 100% sure that other countries won't be entitled to use nuclear weapons after this either. I think you might have a fool proof plan there Latin!

lol, guys, I think we're getting trolled. there is no way he thinks this way.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers lol, guys, I think we're getting trolled. there is no way he thinks this way.

It's good anyways, he lets me get some practice on my sarcasm

I mean Im serious... You know what I wish it can be done also.... is that while we drop a nuclear weapon on Iran for the US to get that catastrophe televised so Russia, Syria, Venezuela and Cuba to get a glimpse to what can happen to them if they dont do what we tell them to do.

I mean of we nuke Iran who the hell is going to tells us something? Nobody. Who the hell is going to sanction us? no one. I think we would be doing a good cause for the whole world.

Nuking any country anywhere in the world could possibly destroy all of humanity. That's not from retaliative strikes either; if the US were to Nuke iran, the sudden fallout would most likely cause atmospheric accumulation from which the sudden temperature change would result in crop failure and collapse of economies and eventual extinction.

To reiterate: nukes are not an option.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers lol, guys, I think we're getting trolled. there is no way he thinks this way.

Yeah. Though it's also possible that he's either mentally deficient or maybe even insane.

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Originally posted by mcleod this has to be the dumbest thing i've read today...

LOL.. i concur. This latinlover kid is a waste of semen.. should have been on his mothers face instead

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Originally posted by Cyrus King LOL.. i concur. This latinlover kid is a waste of semen.. should have been on his mothers face instead

please try not to let yourself sink to his level

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Originally posted by Cyrus King LOL.. i concur. This latinlover kid is a waste of semen.. should have been on his mothers face instead

Harsh.

I think Latinlover is just another brash, ignorant and stupid teenager. Impossible to rationalize with kids of his age with this kind of attitudes.

LL, you're entitled to your opinion... but honestly?

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Originally posted by LatinLover I say lets Nuke them before they destroy the world.

They are planning to destroy the world?and what will they achive from doing something like this? and may I see some sources to support what you are saying ?

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Originally posted by LatinLover I mean of we nuke Iran who the hell is going to tells us something? Nobody. Who the hell is going to sanction us? no one. I think we would be doing a good cause for the whole world.

Trolled or not this is kind of fun.

You do realize that if Venuzuala and China sanctioned the US there would be rioting don't you?

Both have close ties with Iran and niether country is particularily worried about the US.

Of course you're probably talking with a swagger because only two types of Chinese ICBM's can reach Miami.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/midd...ssiles_2007.jpg

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Originally posted by LatinLover Again NUKE IRAN. I mean is it better for us to erase Iran off the map or for Iran to erase the whole West out of the map? I mean Iran knows what they have to do to engage in diplomacy with us, to take a stance to halt their program and come to the table to negotiate any other program alternatives. Till this day they have decided to do things their way and there isnt any indication they are going to change of mind. Fuck that nuke them its not like they value human life anyway

Sorry to sound harsh but do you think it is the Americans that dont want to negotiate with Iran?and finally why da fuck do you hate Iran so much? are they making life harder for you? what will come out of nuking a nation?peace?

If the Chinese want to start threating the US lets Nuke them also. No offense if you havent figured out that China is our bitch you are living in another world. I dont want to sound so harsh but its the truth, I mean we are to soft with China. They love to play political games, they love to hack into our systems and its time we put them in their place

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Originally posted by LatinLover If the Chinese want to start threating the US lets Nuke them also. No offense if you havent figured out that China is our bitch you are living in another world. I dont want to sound so harsh but its the truth, I mean we are to soft with China. They love to play political games, they love to hack into our systems and its time we put them in their place

That's awesome! They own most of your debt and could literally make the US go bankrupt. On top of that, they have as much if not more missiles than the US, and a bigger army! Fuck, if the chinese wanted to hold the whole world at ransom they could just threaten to jump all at the same time.

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Originally posted by venomX That's awesome! They own most of your debt and could literally make the US go bankrupt. On top of that, they have as much if not more missiles than the US, and a bigger army! Fuck, if the chinese wanted to hold the whole world at ransom they could just threaten to jump all at the same time.

The Chinese are restructuring their military and they dont come near to have our technological military advancements.

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Originally posted by LatinLover The Chinese are restructuring their military and they dont come near to have our technological military advancements.

I'm sure they don't! In the meantime, why don't you tell me why so many countries are so worried about China's non disclosure of it's current military arsenal? China easily tops US military spending with their own. Fact of the matter is, if you nuked them, they'll nuke back. If you attack by air, they will damage your planes and attack in kind. And if you even dare try invading them, good luck killing off a couple of million of well armed people. After that, remember to wipe off the hundreds of millions poorly armed, capable of guerrilla warfare they have in reserve. Then after that, remember to go to the country side and finish off the other hundred millions of people that are left roaming around.

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Originally posted by venomX China easily tops US military spending with their own.

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Originally posted by LatinLover

Fair enough, that was an overstatement In any case, any military action against China is senseless. My other points still stand. And another thing to consider is the reaction in the region. Even if the US could manage to withstand the economic fallout, what would Russia and the Middle East do? The US can't take China on by itself, what would happened if Russia jumped in? What would the EU do? It is quite narrow minded to say that the US could just up and nuke China.

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