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Posted by Khayat on Oct-17-2007 20:49:

My poor PC

DAW: Ableton Live 6, 25 Tracksof them 12 midi (10 Nexus) & (2 SH 201 vst) and 19 audio !!!
Running on Core 2 Duo E6600 with 1 GB ram
I open the project in like 2 minutes or something
Is this normal because of only 1 GB of Ram ?
My pc really breaks my heart when I open this project hehehe

Posted by Khayat on Oct-17-2007 21:29:

I had a chance last weekend to play with Reason 4 ona Friend's Laptop and it was Core2Duo 1.8 Ghz with 2 gb Ram .But when I made 3 channels on Thor and pressed play after 2 mins I got a message saying "Your PC is too slow" lool
I wounder what computer Professional musicians use ??
maybe a Nasa PC?

Posted by Zombie0729 on Oct-17-2007 21:49:

wait are you complaining about your original post? 12 midi channels (not flattened) and 19 audio channels... that's freakin awesome!

Posted by Khayat on Oct-17-2007 22:40:

I thought Core 2 Duo makes me use 1000 channels hehehe

Posted by camsr on Oct-17-2007 22:42:

try defragging the hard drive. thats usually the most common source of a bottleneck

Posted by Storyteller on Oct-17-2007 22:59:

From my experience especially abletons disk streaming of audio tracks is very very poor. It start skipping stuff when my cpu load is over about 50%, which is just crazy. With other programs I use I can go over 80% and still all will sound as it should...

I like and use ableton regularly, but it seems flawed. It uses more cpu than other applications I use, for the same thing. That's just my experience though.

Posted by Khayat on Oct-17-2007 23:02:

hahaha I just had Cpu load 128%

Posted by Zombie0729 on Oct-18-2007 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
From my experience especially abletons disk streaming of audio tracks is very very poor. It start skipping stuff when my cpu load is over about 50%, which is just crazy. With other programs I use I can go over 80% and still all will sound as it should...

I like and use ableton regularly, but it seems flawed. It uses more cpu than other applications I use, for the same thing. That's just my experience though.

i actually left Sonar for ableton because of CPU problems(years ago)... sonar is just a CPU whore. however, i think Ableton has a bug with its CPU meter because mine jumps and skips all over and if i open up my task manager, i see none of the fluctuations that ableton does.... sometimes ableton will read 40% but in task manager i'm upwards of 70% ? how does that make sense

Posted by RichieV on Oct-18-2007 00:21:

first computer

Quad core intel
2 UAD
2 powercore

slave computer
AM2

Posted by kitphillips on Oct-18-2007 01:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
i actually left Sonar for ableton because of CPU problems(years ago)... sonar is just a CPU whore. however, i think Ableton has a bug with its CPU meter because mine jumps and skips all over and if i open up my task manager, i see none of the fluctuations that ableton does.... sometimes ableton will read 40% but in task manager i'm upwards of 70% ? how does that make sense

Because you must have other applications making up the other 30%, ableton only shows its own usage. Of course it could be buggy too...

quote:
From my experience especially abletons disk streaming of audio tracks is very very poor. It start skipping stuff when my cpu load is over about 50%, which is just crazy. With other programs I use I can go over 80% and still all will sound as it should...

I have also noticed this, I wish they would fix it since half of what I do is audio I think its a problem with their direct from disk programming, maybe their not using enough RAM or something. Anyway, the CPU meter may not be related to the dropouts your hearing, because it might actually be a disk overload problem where your harddisk isn't spinning fast enough. My disks only 4200 RPM so I know ALL about this.

Posted by kopi_luwak on Oct-18-2007 01:23:

Alot depends to of the Poliphony.

Kopi =o.

Posted by farris on Oct-18-2007 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Anyway, the CPU meter may not be related to the dropouts your hearing, because it might actually be a disk overload problem where your harddisk isn't spinning fast enough. My disks only 4200 RPM so I know ALL about this.

No. I have a WD Raptor 10000rpm HD and experience some of these issues too when having a fair amount of audio tracks.

- farris

Posted by iammesol on Oct-18-2007 03:14:

www.apple.com

purchase.

[/joke]

Yeah dude get an upgrade. You're gonna' need 2GB minimum RAM to run Ableton comfortably.

Posted by kitphillips on Oct-18-2007 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by farris
No. I have a WD Raptor 10000rpm HD and experience some of these issues too when having a fair amount of audio tracks.

- farris

Ah, I am corrected, still might be something to do with abletons disk streaming if you mainly get it with audio tracks.

Posted by iloop on Oct-18-2007 05:40:

i run abletons on 2cpu dual athlon.. only after 70%+ does mine cracle but thats with too many eq+fx parramaters on too many channels -once it jumped to 318% i was like ?

Posted by echosystm on Oct-18-2007 07:33:

try reaper

Posted by ASFSE on Oct-18-2007 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
damn u. this is me:
AMD Athlon XP 1500+
1,34Ghz, 512mb RAM
i can have about 15 tracks in reason, thats all. but only if I close msn. i breakdown in tearz everytime i want to use my hardware synth.

aw that really sux dude...i hope you'll be able to upgrade asap!!!

Posted by farris on Oct-18-2007 16:02:

BTW, you're using Nexus. Isn't that sample-based? Having 10 of them will surely eat some RAM. Freeze/bounce some and see if that helps any.

- farris

Posted by Khayat on Oct-18-2007 17:45:

why sample Reason aint a sampler (Or maybe I dont know)

Posted by Khayat on Oct-18-2007 20:47:

I ment NEXUS loooooooooooooool